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DavidSSS

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I reckon we keep the quarantine stations (unlike the ones we closed back in the 1980s(?) figuring we would never need them) for any future pandemics. I'm sure they can be put to a good use and when another pandemic happens we can do proper quarantine, avoid lockdowns and control any virus coming in using quarantine. It is insane for a country like Australia not to have quarantine facilities. It can work in an island nation, but not if you use hotels with shared air conditioning to quarantine for a respiratory virus.

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The issue with the quarantine stations is that blind Freddy could see that we needed them last year - if they had started the build in July / August they would have been operational at the beginning of this year - that’s the issue and the fact Scomo and the Feds did nothing is the sad part - hand balled our international borders to the States cause he didn’t want to cop any flack if they didn’t work.

Leadership avoidance at its best.
 
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DavidSSS

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The issue with the quarantine stations is that blind Freddy could see that we needed them last year - if they had started the build in July / August they would have been operational at the beginning of this year - that’s the issue and the fact Scomo and the Feds did nothing is the sad part - hand balled our international borders to the States cause he didn’t want to cop any flack if they didn’t work.

Leadership avoidance at its best.

Yep, but the Feds are too incompetent to do anything quickly, except an announcement.

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And good lurk for Tingle...she writes an article as part of her contractural obligations for ABC and then AFR pay her for the same piece of work.
She needs to get some tuition from her bloke Sam Neill on how to engage with a camera. Her eyes dart all over the place anywhere but right at it. Very distracting.
She has split from Sam .

Laura is not the best media performer I agree.
 
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Agree, but it's sad that after the horror & embarrassment that was Abbott, we have another PM that's arguably worse. We've learnt nothing,
If you think through what happened Baloo it is a commentary on the dysfunction of the Liberal party. They had a PM who was at least not on the nose in the electorate in Turnbull but was a weakened captive of his party and was unable or unwilling to make any decisions that rocked the boat because his hold on the leadership was so tenuous. In the end we didn't know what he stood for because he couldn't get anything done and became almost a lame duck.
So they booted him out and had a choice between a pragmatist survivor in Julie Bishop who had flip flopped for years and had no real base of support in the Party ( plus she is a woman) , Dutton who would have been even worse than Abbott and was ( and still is) hated by the centrists in the Liberal party and the Bradbury choice of Morrison who stood for nothing, was not really supported by anyone but wasn't Dutton.
 
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If you think through what happened Baloo it is a commentary on the dysfunction of the Liberal party. They had a PM who was at least not on the nose in the electorate in Turnbull but was a weakened captive of his party and was unable or unwilling to make any decisions that rocked the boat because his hold on the leadership was so tenuous. In the end we didn't know what he stood for because he couldn't get anything done and became almost a lame duck.
So they booted him out and had a choice between a pragmatist survivor in Julie Bishop who had flip flopped for years and had no real base of support in the Party ( plus she is a woman) , Dutton who would have been even worse than Abbott and was ( and still is) hated by the centrists in the Liberal party and the Bradbury choice of Morrison who stood for nothing, was not really supported by anyone but wasn't Dutton.

Turnbull lost me when he took Rudd's NBN plan and crippled it to keep News Ltd's investment in cable TV safe from competition. Actually, it was Abbott that crippled it, but when Malcolm in the Middle took over he kept it crippled.

But while what you say is all true, the impact of a global media empire that's so brazen in it's conservative agenda that it can produce lies and overtly biased coverage so shamelessly is massive. It suits News Ltd, and other large groups like the Coal industry etc, to have a Leader like Morrison who can be easily bought and has no shame. There can't be much doubt now that Morrison is a sociopath, if not a psychopath.
 
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Sintiger

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Turnbull lost me when he took Rudd's NBN plan and crippled it to keep News Ltd's investment in cable TV safe from competition. Actually, it was Abbott that crippled it, but when Malcolm in the Middle took over he kept it crippled.

But while what you say is all true, the impact of a global media empire that's so brazen in it's conservative agenda that it can produce lies and overtly biased coverage so shamelessly is massive. It suits News Ltd, and other large groups like the Coal industry etc, to have a Leader like Morrison who can be easily bought and has no shame. There can't be much doubt now that Morrison is a sociopath, if not a psychopath.
Agree, I remember when the LNP was in opposition and Turnbull was rabbiting on about a business case and ROI for the NBN plan with fibre to the home. He was talking like an investment banker rather than a national leader.

I recall posting at the time musing what the Business case for railways would have looked like 100+ years ago? Taking an investment banker view to critical national infrastructure like the NBN was always flawed and was pure politics and Turnbull and everyone else in the LNP didn't have the intestinal fortitude to admit they were wrong.

Every time my streaming service doesn't work when it rains I curse Turnbull.
 
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Agree, I remember when the LNP was in opposition and Turnbull was rabbiting on about a business case and ROI for the NBN plan with fibre to the home. He was talking like an investment banker rather than a national leader.

I recall posting at the time musing what the Business case for railways would have looked like 100+ years ago? Taking an investment banker view to critical national infrastructure like the NBN was always flawed and was pure politics and Turnbull and everyone else in the LNP didn't have the intestinal fortitude to admit they were wrong.

Every time my streaming service doesn't work when it rains I curse Turnbull.

Agree, the NBN is a joke and we knew it would be a joke the minute they changed from fibre to the premises.

My NBN slows down and drops out with rain, wind etc.

Who ever thought that 19th century technology (HFC - the C is for coaxial which was patented in the late 19th century, yes, well over 100 years ago) was going to be good enough for 21st century technology? Only a moron would think that.

I just got an email (working from home) asking if I had answered an earlier email. I had and couldn't work out why the email wasn't received. Oh, look in the Out Box in Outlook, none of my emails today have sent. The NBN is so useless it can't even cope with sending pissy little emails.

We all knew this was woefully inadequate, there were articles in the paper from telecommunications engineers telling them what a joke this is, yet the coalition government went ahead and installed a dodgy NBN which we will now have to pay to get upgraded to something useful.

F*cken Idiots.

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Golden Gladys facing the blowtorch at the ICAC investigation today.

Why did you keep the 5 relationship with dodgy Daryl quiet Gladys?
Does she seriously expect us to believe that dirty pillow talk with her corrupt boyfriend wasn't taking place?
What an absolute disgrace.
 
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I just got an email (working from home) asking if I had answered an earlier email. I had and couldn't work out why the email wasn't received. Oh, look in the Out Box in Outlook, none of my emails today have sent. The NBN is so useless it can't even cope with sending pissy little emails.
If you're getting emails but not sending, I don't think that's an NBN issue.
 
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DavidSSS

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If you're getting emails but not sending, I don't think that's an NBN issue.

I figure the emails banked up because of an outage when I tried to send the first one (it does drop in and out a lot). So, I'm thinking NBN issue combined with having to use Outlook. Can't think of any other explanation, the NBN drops out way more than ADSL ever did as the speed increase is marginal.

In any case, fibre to the node and rubbish the rest of the way is crap.

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BT Tiger

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How's this report that's been revealed by ICAC? Damning evidence against Golden Gladys.

Plus that they are discussing targeting marginal seats rather than those most in need is also disgraceful.

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How's this report that's been revealed by ICAC? Damning evidence against Golden Gladys.

Plus that they are discussing targeting marginal seats rather than those most in need is also disgraceful.

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Out of interest who dothese names belong too? Nigel? Ayres?

Other than Maguires tryst with Gladys, do you think that other grants don't also get madewith similar levels of assessment? Maybe even grants awarded to RFC. If you want to take politics out of government what do you you end up with?
 

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Out of interest who dothese names belong too? Nigel? Ayres?

Other than Maguires tryst with Gladys, do you think that other grants don't also get madewith similar levels of assessment? Maybe even grants awarded to RFC. If you want to take politics out of government what do you you end up with?

Not sure who Nigel is but Stuart Ayres is the other minister in hot water for pushing these grants through without merit. What do you mean "belong to"?

Personally I think ministerial discretion should be abolished or at least require far greater scrutiny when it does occur. Why would you employ heaps of beurocrats to research which projects should be funded just for the minister to rip up the report and fund based on targeting seats? Are you saying this should be normalised? Because the ICAC proceedings are demonstrating why it shouldn't be and I'm finding the whole proceedings rather refreshing. Would be simply wonderful to have a similar system at federal level.
 
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