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A friend sent me this link. I had never heard of him before, but love a quality rant over politics in the UK as well.

Those who think Boris is about as competent as Fauxmo should enjoy.

 
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leon

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Have absolutely no idea, nor do I have enough interest in or care about who owns what bit of media where. I'm guessing that by your line of comment, you're suggesting the Libs own it all so I'm wondering how the ALP n other independent mobs ever get any mention at all or even manage to actually exist as obviously the Libs would never allow any of them access to their medjia networks.
I think your first sentence says it a lot about your attitude, TM. Not sure how you can a) care so little (it's in everyone's interest to be aware as possible about what is happening around them IMHO) and b) have no idea!?

I'd say you've had a lifetime to escape such ignorance. Did you even read the good article posted by Spook that drew the response I reacted to? Are you reading the quality posts on PRE plus other alternative media sources these guys post on threads like this - which are NOT from our mainstream media.

What's stopping you from scrolling through the Murdochracy thread on PRE for starters? NewsCorp controls about 70% of Oz media. Then Fairfax with P. Costello chairman etc.

But if you're happy with Rupe and Co. with the LNP in their pockets running Australia like a medieval fiefdom, then you deserve what you cop, I guess.

PS - It's not directly the LNP 'owning it'. It's Murdoch's private companies, whom the LNP basically do the bidding of and allow his business interests protection and profit in return. [There's also a similar nexus with the big banks and our political parties]. Same in US where Murdoch and his FOX media aligned with Trump for mutual benefit and almost enabled overthrow of American democracy. Imagine the consequences for the supposed Free World! Imagine China and Putin's Russia able to fill the gap as world leaders? But, of course, no concern of yours? All just so Murdoch and Trump could secure and maintain their political and financial interests; their hegemony over the American people (heap of dumbasses though).

Labour has very limited media influence but has to virtually kowtow as well if they should win Federal elections which the majority of times they cannot with Murdochracy. Vicious circle, see. There's heaps you can read even on PRE re Australia's predicament. There's a whole heap of books/programs/docos but ... ignorance is bliss, right?
 
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HR

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There's a whole heap of books/programs/docos but ... ignorance is bliss, right?
I've done well to stay away from these comments for ages and sorry to butt in TM, but.......Leon turn it around and look back at your biases. You will then see that a patronising comment like the above is equally as blissfully ignorant.
The issue I have with your line of thought is that you believe you are the smart one and that all who think the same are correct, therefore everyone else must be idiots and are culpably ignorant to the world.
It's also one of the reasons why for all of the right sides failings, they continue to be voted in.
Murdoch is not the reason.
The left is. Once they figure it out they might stand a chance.
 
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TigerMasochist

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I think your first sentence says it a lot about your attitude, TM. Not sure how you can a) care so little (it's in everyone's interest to be aware as possible about what is happening around them IMHO) and b) have no idea!?

I'd say you've had a lifetime to escape such ignorance. Did you even read the good article posted by Spook that drew the response I reacted to? Are you reading the quality posts on PRE plus other alternative media sources these guys post on threads like this - which are NOT from our mainstream media.

What's stopping you from scrolling through the Murdochracy thread on PRE for starters? NewsCorp controls about 70% of Oz media. Then Fairfax with P. Costello chairman etc.

But if you're happy with Rupe and Co. with the LNP in their pockets running Australia like a medieval fiefdom, then you deserve what you cop, I guess.

PS - It's not directly the LNP 'owning it'. It's Murdoch's private companies, whom the LNP basically do the bidding of and allow his business interests protection and profit in return. [There's also a similar nexus with the big banks and our political parties]. Same in US where Murdoch and his FOX media aligned with Trump for mutual benefit and almost enabled overthrow of American democracy. Imagine the consequences for the supposed Free World! Imagine China and Putin's Russia able to fill the gap as world leaders? But, of course, no concern of yours? All just so Murdoch and Trump could secure and maintain their political and financial interests; their hegemony over the American people (heap of dumbasses though).

Labour has very limited media influence but has to virtually kowtow as well if they should win Federal elections which the majority of times they cannot with Murdochracy. Vicious circle, see. There's heaps you can read even on PRE re Australia's predicament. There's a whole heap of books/programs/docos but ... ignorance is bliss, right?
Just to keep you happy leon, I went back n had a quick double on the article that Spook posted and my comment on it. The article is nothing more than a basic abc explanation of how ALL politicians and their parties have been using / manipulating media coverage to their best advantage ever since they got off their old street corner soap boxes.
Nothing particularly insightful, interesting, independent or new about it. From the tone of your and others postings, it's obvious you're rabid Labor n desperately clinging to any thing at all that shows ScoMo n the liberal party in a bad light.
Personally I don't particularly give much of a *smile* about any politician from any party, except perhaps Dan :mad:.

Strange you should throw the Trumpster in as an example of media bias n support. Poor old Trumpster copped a flogging off plenty of media ( Fox are still rabidly Trump / Republican, just about everyone else I saw just as desperately Sleepy Joe n Democrat. Meedjia in all western countries picks sides n pushes agendas ) during his Presidency n rightly so. But I notice that one year into his term old Sleepy Joe makes his announcements n then shuffles off to his cubby house refusing to take questions from the gathered Press gallery. The Democrats also whinged at the Press that they were far to hard on Biden n should be " nice " to him.

Feel free to get yourself all tangled up n angst ridden over both the meedjia bias n political party corruption, I figured out a long time ago that 90% of what gets rammed down your throat is pure crap n the other 10% ain't worth getting your panties in a bunch over.

P.S. Got me a horrible feeling that due to the way the " FREE WORLD " is peering closely up it's own arse lately Grandpa Xi n Vlad the impaler are having a fair slice of influence as world leaders right about now. You can rant n rail about that too if you like, but I doubt it'll do much besides give you a head ache.

P.P.S. I've read through a few of those articles on PRE n at times flipped through a program / doco or two. Most of them have their own little agendas, biases n points to prove or sponsors / donors to collect from.
Who knows, maybe ignorance truly is bliss. My Doc tells me I've got the blood pressure of a healthy 40 year old.
 
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frickenel

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Who from the media has the guts to ask our PM the million dollar question..
'How did Novax get a visa in the first place?'
Pretty easily actually.

He got a visa in November as part of his Tennis Australia supported application. Vaccination status isn't even looked at during this part of the process. It's looekd at by ABF when you arrive, which is where he ended up in hotel Quarantine.

There seems to be a lack of curosity in relation to the Andrews governments role in this. The real question is why the medical panel set up by the Andrews Governemt pased him?

What makes this fiasco even more unbelievable is how long the stat Government had to ponder this situation. You only had to be listening to SEN for the last 4 months as they pondered the situation at to whether he'd be allowed to participate or not. You have to bear in mind that the Austraina Open is a Victorian Event. The Vic Government is a major stake holder in ensuring (along with Tennis Australia) that everything runs smoothly. How is it that nobody in the Andrews Govt contacted TA months ago to ask "hey what's going on with Djokovic"?

Why is it that the federal Government has to cover the continual incompetence of this corrupt communist pr!ck we have as a state leader?

And don't get me wrong here, i'm no Scott Morrison fan. I see him as a follower of polls just like every other leader we have now. I'm sick of him just trying to be a small target with every issue, hence the reason why he hasn't called a Royal Commission into the hotel Quarantine fiasco here in Victoria. He is definitely not my style of leader, but for all the same reasons, neither is that flip flop Anthony Albanese who is even worse.

Weak leadership across the western world will be the reason for us having the 2022 we are going to have, and economically it ain't looking pretty!
 

AngryAnt

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Pretty easily actually.

He got a visa in November as part of his Tennis Australia supported application. Vaccination status isn't even looked at during this part of the process. It's looekd at by ABF when you arrive, which is where he ended up in hotel Quarantine.

There seems to be a lack of curosity in relation to the Andrews governments role in this. The real question is why the medical panel set up by the Andrews Governemt pased him?
Because it was an independent medical panel that followed ATAGI guidelines. Did you want political interference in what was a independent medical assessment?

What makes this fiasco even more unbelievable is how long the stat Government had to ponder this situation. You only had to be listening to SEN for the last 4 months as they pondered the situation at to whether he'd be allowed to participate or not. You have to bear in mind that the Austraina Open is a Victorian Event. The Vic Government is a major stake holder in ensuring (along with Tennis Australia) that everything runs smoothly. How is it that nobody in the Andrews Govt contacted TA months ago to ask "hey what's going on with Djokovic"?

Months ago he hadn't had a supposed second infection - this only happened in December. The Victorian government couldn't rule him out at that stage - they didn't know his medical status. The issue of TA/Vic Government talking - they did, perhaps not very effectively. So TA would have said "yes Djokovic is coming, he's been invited. Let's see if he gets vaccinated in the meantime or has some other sort of exemption.

No doubt communication between TA/VicGov/Feds was poor, but as we've seen the Feds had the power to exclude, and the minister finally did so.
 
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Brodders17

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Pretty easily actually.

He got a visa in November as part of his Tennis Australia supported application. Vaccination status isn't even looked at during this part of the process. It's looekd at by ABF when you arrive, which is where he ended up in hotel Quarantine.

There seems to be a lack of curosity in relation to the Andrews governments role in this. The real question is why the medical panel set up by the Andrews Governemt pased him?

What makes this fiasco even more unbelievable is how long the stat Government had to ponder this situation. You only had to be listening to SEN for the last 4 months as they pondered the situation at to whether he'd be allowed to participate or not. You have to bear in mind that the Austraina Open is a Victorian Event. The Vic Government is a major stake holder in ensuring (along with Tennis Australia) that everything runs smoothly. How is it that nobody in the Andrews Govt contacted TA months ago to ask "hey what's going on with Djokovic"?

Why is it that the federal Government has to cover the continual incompetence of this corrupt communist pr!ck we have as a state leader?

And don't get me wrong here, i'm no Scott Morrison fan. I see him as a follower of polls just like every other leader we have now. I'm sick of him just trying to be a small target with every issue, hence the reason why he hasn't called a Royal Commission into the hotel Quarantine fiasco here in Victoria. He is definitely not my style of leader, but for all the same reasons, neither is that flip flop Anthony Albanese who is even worse.

Weak leadership across the western world will be the reason for us having the 2022 we are going to have, and economically it ain't looking pretty!
I know state leaders have been running the country for the past 2 years, but I wasnt aware they had also taken charge of our borders.
 
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Baloo

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This is what happens when our pacific neighbours don't fall into line and instead speak out against our lack of climate change action.
 
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tigersnake

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$1M is peanuts
Its not even peanut shells. So hard hearted, disappointing and embarrasing. Who is advising them? In what world is it not pathetic from any angle?

How old is the Austin Powers movie now? When Dr Evil has been frozen since the 60s and asks for "one million dollars" ransom in the present day and gets laughed at?
 
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tigerman

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$ 1 million :vomitI'm ashamed, it's peanuts.

This all started when that great christian, Tony Abbott starting cutting foreign aid, under their new *uck you Jack I'm alright policy. It continued under Turnbull and again under Morrison:mad:

It's no wonder those poor nations are getting on board with China.


"Australia now ranks 21 of 29 in the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development when measuring aid as a proportion of gross national income"

 
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artball

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really makes me wonder what this government thinks it is ...

or rather, they have no idea what they are ...

pond scum ...
 
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larabee

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It's like they're proud of it.
I don't remember a tweet from the government when they gave Foxtel/Rupert $10M (on top of the previous $30M) for, uh, something

 
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DavidSSS

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It's like they're proud of it.
I don't remember a tweet from the government when they gave Foxtel/Rupert $10M (on top of the previous $30M) for, uh, something


Or the $400 million odd to that very small Great Barrier Reef organisation that no-one had ever heard of (mates maybe?)

It is stunning they seem proud of such a pathetic contribution, I bet the Chinese are offering a lot more.

DS
 
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