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eZyT

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He’s trying to avoid the *smile* storm that’s developed in NSW and Victoria and smooth the impending impact out instead. That’s patently obvious. If that means extending the date for border opening, I doubt many people in WA will hang him out to dry like you’re attempting. In fact, as Tigerman said, life’s been pretty good over there for the vast majority throughout the pandemic, and a decision like this would have next to zero impact on his popularity if not support it even further.

I know what hes attempting, and why hes attempting it.

But its like putting lipstick on gina rhinehart
 
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Redford

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I know what hes attempting, and why hes attempting it.

But its like putting lipstick on gina rhinehart
The vast majority in WA won’t give a rats coz up until now they’ve been dating Jennifer Hawkins and not Gina Rhinehart.
 
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eZyT

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The vast majority in WA won’t give a rats coz up until now they’ve been dating Jennifer Hawkins and not Gina Rhinehart.

Maybe.

But i think theyre in for a helluva fright when the lights go on,

While theyre pollinating that orchid
 
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Sintiger

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He’s trying to avoid the *smile* storm that’s developed in NSW and Victoria and smooth the impending impact out instead. That’s patently obvious. If that means extending the date for border opening, I doubt many people in WA will hang him out to dry like you’re attempting. In fact, as Tigerman said, life’s been pretty good over there for the vast majority throughout the pandemic, and a decision like this would have next to zero impact on his popularity if not support it even further.
True but he has to back it up with some support for some sectors. Their tourism industry is on its knees as an example
 
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Redford

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True but he has to back it up with some support for some sectors. Their tourism industry is on its knees as an example
There are sectors in every single country and every single state across the globe that are in distress. WA are not exclusive in this regard.
 
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Sintiger

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There are sectors in every single country and every single state across the globe that are in distress. WA are not exclusive in this regard.
Of course but that doesn’t or shouldn’t stop the WA Govt supporting sectors effected by this decision.

I heard they are now aiming for 80% of the population triple vaxxed. That’s months away
 

Redford

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Of course but that doesn’t or shouldn’t stop the WA Govt supporting sectors effected by this decision.

I heard they are now aiming for 80% of the population triple vaxxed. That’s months away
That’s just fundamental to any management of any “state” during the pandemic I’d have thought. WA have fewer sectors to worry about than most.

As for their vax rates, they have a population profile and set of circumstances that was always going to make vaccination more difficult than say Victoria and one or two other states ie large indigenous population, geographical spread, historical health services issues dating back decades, etc etc
 
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eZyT

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Of course but that doesn’t or shouldn’t stop the WA Govt supporting sectors effected by this decision.

I heard they are now aiming for 80% of the population triple vaxxed. That’s months away

I suspect the progression towards triple vaxed in WA

will be unprecedentedly slow.

90% of people got double vac'd, many* incentivised by 1. employment mandate and 2. border opening

they weren't incentivised by not catching Covid, cause it posed no apparent threat, due to geography, politics and demographics.

and McGowan removed any health incentive there was, oddly, with a midnight press conference, and without any qualitative revision at all.

nothing.

when people reneg, affected people get de-motivated at best, adversarial at worst.

you dont need a psychology doctorate to understand that.

triple is the new double.

with no allusion, that quadruple won't be the new triple.



Our Federation is a shitstorm.

* the residents of WA I know, n=20, are all under 40
 
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eZyT

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serbian PM knocks RIO TINTO Lithium mine on the head,

in a backflipping

'you deport our tennis hero, we'll deport your gina rhinehart'

the day just got a whole lot brighter :D
 
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tigerman

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True but he has to back it up with some support for some sectors. Their tourism industry is on its knees as an example
Tourism is booming at the moment, I'm just back from a holiday within Wa, there's people everywhere.

Changing the opening date from Feb 5 will no doubt lead to a lot of cancellations from interstate people.
 
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tigerman

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As for their vax rates, they have a population profile and set of circumstances that was always going to make vaccination more difficult than say Victoria and one or two other states ie large indigenous population, geographical spread, historical health services issues dating back decades, etc etc
And the vaccination of those indigenous people is the responsibility of the Federal Government.
If the treatment of our elderly in federally run aged care centres is anything to go by, heaven help the poor souls.
 
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Sintiger

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That’s just fundamental to any management of any “state” during the pandemic I’d have thought. WA have fewer sectors to worry about than most.

As for their vax rates, they have a population profile and set of circumstances that was always going to make vaccination more difficult than say Victoria and one or two other states ie large indigenous population, geographical spread, historical health services issues dating back decades, etc etc
They should support effected industries, I agree that's fundamental. Are they?
They have set a triple vax number at 80% which is unbelievably difficult and is going to take a long time which makes the above support even more important
I just worry that they have boxed themselves into an impossible corner where they have set criteria for a safe opening of borders which can never be achieved and is going to do immeasurable harm. By all means open slowly, open with public health measures in place and take them off slowly, set a plan with KPIs and stick to it. At the moment noone knows when it will happen and how.
I may be wrong, it's an opinion.
 

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They should support effected industries, I agree that's fundamental. Are they?
They have set a triple vax number at 80% which is unbelievably difficult and is going to take a long time which makes the above support even more important
I just worry that they have boxed themselves into an impossible corner where they have set criteria for a safe opening of borders which can never be achieved and is going to do immeasurable harm. By all means open slowly, open with public health measures in place and take them off slowly, set a plan with KPIs and stick to it. At the moment noone knows when it will happen and how.
I may be wrong, it's an opinion.
Yep.
 

Sintiger

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serbian PM knocks RIO TINTO Lithium mine on the head,

in a backflipping

'you deport our tennis hero, we'll deport your gina rhinehart'

the day just got a whole lot brighter :D
Leadership ......seriously that is embarassing for Serbia. He is a tennis player for *smile* sake
 
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eZyT

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Leadership ......seriously that is embarassing for Serbia. He is a tennis player for *smile* sake

its a race to the bottom, brother.

china wont buy Rock Lobsters, simply because they believe that Peter Dutton's parents tried to culturally appropriate and personify a dim-sim;

buy Lobsters

Rio Tinto get booted from Serbia, because a gifted unvaccinated nut job hired an illiterate travel manager;

So buy Fortescue shares.

might as well go first class in a trainwreck?
 
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tigerman

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you do understand that Ascot racecourse has a 2km circumference,

and that WA is 2.6 million hectares?
Haven't you heard eZyT, I've been cured.

It was quite easy really.........................after all I've given up dozens of times:))
 
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Baloo

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Leadership ......seriously that is embarassing for Serbia. He is a tennis player for *smile* sake
Did she actually reference Novax? There's been massive protest against the mine for some time and the pressure was on the government to stop it even before Novax was vacated
 
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eZyT

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Did she actually reference Novax? There's been massive protest against the mine for some time and the pressure was on the government to stop it even before Novax was vacated


The Guardians perspective seems to be,

that the environmental protests fell on deaf ears,

until last week.

'surprise U-turn', apparently :p

I'd like to see the diplomats cut a deal, where Gina Rhinehart gets a wildcard into the OZ Open (plays Nick Kyrios on John Cain, ideally)

and Novax gets to dig Lithium for a few years