Talking Politics

[BT Tiger]

Is a retrospective ICAC with teeth really too much to ask for?

Australia records its worst ever score on anti-corruption index after decline to match Hungary’s

Transparency International says poor performance due largely to failure to establish federal anti-corruption commission

www.theguardian.com

 

[TigerMasochist]

He also worked over 120 days straight during the lockdown, not much chance ANYONE in the private sector would do that, including the Owners/bosses etc.

Yep spending an hour or more per day every day droning the same mindless lock down mantra about how he was saving everyone from all his previous *smile* ups.

 

[tigersnake]

At a guess western economies will be crashing before the Federal Election. This will put the focus back on economics of which Labor is historically disasterous at.

sorry pal but this statement betrays a complete lack of credibility on political issues. Doesn't stand up to any rational systematic historical analysis. Its just a folksey reactionary myth.

While the above is irrefuteable, I'd go much further. I'd argue that based on systematic historic economic analysis the Coalition wrote the book on wasted economic opportunities and pissing billions of taxpayer funds up against the wall.

 

[Tigers of Old]

‘One last push’ says Domicron.
NSW recorded a heap of death today. Reinfection happening..business bleeding. Other states on his doorstep burning.
Someone please push him out of his job.

 

[eZyT]

Is a retrospective ICAC with teeth really too much to ask for?

Australia records its worst ever score on anti-corruption index after decline to match Hungary’s

Transparency International says poor performance due largely to failure to establish federal anti-corruption commission

www.theguardian.com

any statute of limitations on corruption that may exist,

Wont keep this current bunch of gormless incompetant crooks from scrutiny.

 

[MD Jazz]

sorry pal but this statement betrays a complete lack of credibility on political issues. Doesn't stand up to any rational systematic historical analysis. Its just a folksey reactionary myth.

While the above is irrefuteable, I'd go much further. I'd argue that based on systematic historic economic analysis the Coalition wrote the book on wasted economic opportunities and pissing billions of taxpayer funds up against the wall.

I'd say waste and government go hand in hand. Both sides can be shown to have wasted plenty of taxpayer dollars. Agree this Libs being better economic managers is a bit of a myth though.

Albanese will get his chance but its going to be a very tough few years economically so he's gonna be up against it.

 

[Tigers of Old]

delete

 

[tigersnake]

I'd say waste and government go hand in hand. Both sides can be shown to have wasted plenty of taxpayer dollars. Agree this Libs being better economic managers is a bit of a myth though.

Albanese will get his chance but its going to be a very tough few years economically so he's gonna be up against it.

Its a lot of a myth. It exists only in a chunk of the general population and conservative media, and I don't reckon said media actually believe it either. It doesn't hold any water with anyone with any expertise.

I agree to a point, governments by their nature 'waste' money. Its just the nature of bureaucracy and the associated accountability requirements. You and I could build a granny flat for 100K, any government will spend at least double that on the same building. Its how about how bad the waste, what the money is being spent on and who benefits. I'd argue over the last 30 years coalition waste has been far worse by any measure.

 

[Sintiger]

Its a lot of a myth. It exists only in a chunk of the general population and conservative media, and I don't reckon said media actually believe it either. It doesn't hold any water with anyone with any expertise.

I agree to a point, governments by their nature 'waste' money. Its just the nature of bureaucracy and the associated accountability requirements. You and I could build a granny flat for 100K, any government will spend at least double that on the same building. Its how about how bad the waste, what the money is being spent on and who benefits. I'd argue over the last 30 years coalition waste has been far worse by any measure.

I like this pictorial representation

 

[tigerman]

The Liberal Party operate under the..................keep telling the same lies and people will believe you.

So, what does the data show?​

The data shows that the Coalition under Mr Howard was the highest-taxing government of the last 30 years, with an average tax-to-GDP ratio of 23.5 per cent.

Over its first four years — prior to introducing the GST — that rate was 22.5 per cent.

Fact check: Are the two highest-taxing governments of the past 30 years both Coalition governments?

Shadow Treasurer Jim Chalmers says the two highest-taxing governments of the past 30 years have been Coalition governments, including the current one. Is that correct? RMIT ABC Fact Check investigates.

www.abc.net.au

Australia Government Debt: % of GDP, 1999 – 2025 | CEIC Data

Australia Government debt accounted for 38.0 % of the country's Nominal GDP in Jun 2023, compared with the ratio of 41.9 % in the previous year.

www.ceicdata.com

 

[DavidSSS]

The Liberal Party operate under the..................keep telling the same lies and people will believe you.

So, what does the data show?​

The data shows that the Coalition under Mr Howard was the highest-taxing government of the last 30 years, with an average tax-to-GDP ratio of 23.5 per cent.

Over its first four years — prior to introducing the GST — that rate was 22.5 per cent.

Fact check: Are the two highest-taxing governments of the past 30 years both Coalition governments?

Shadow Treasurer Jim Chalmers says the two highest-taxing governments of the past 30 years have been Coalition governments, including the current one. Is that correct? RMIT ABC Fact Check investigates.

www.abc.net.au

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Australia Government Debt: % of GDP, 1999 – 2025 | CEIC Data

Australia Government debt accounted for 38.0 % of the country's Nominal GDP in Jun 2023, compared with the ratio of 41.9 % in the previous year.

www.ceicdata.com

Whoa there, just stop now. You cannot bring facts and data to the table in this discussion. Repeat after me: Labor are irresponsible tax and spend maniacs and the LNP coalition are sound economic managers.

DS

 

[Sintiger]

The Liberal Party operate under the..................keep telling the same lies and people will believe you.

So, what does the data show?​

The data shows that the Coalition under Mr Howard was the highest-taxing government of the last 30 years, with an average tax-to-GDP ratio of 23.5 per cent.

Over its first four years — prior to introducing the GST — that rate was 22.5 per cent.

Fact check: Are the two highest-taxing governments of the past 30 years both Coalition governments?

Shadow Treasurer Jim Chalmers says the two highest-taxing governments of the past 30 years have been Coalition governments, including the current one. Is that correct? RMIT ABC Fact Check investigates.

www.abc.net.au

View attachment 14505

Australia Government Debt: % of GDP, 1999 – 2025 | CEIC Data

Australia Government debt accounted for 38.0 % of the country's Nominal GDP in Jun 2023, compared with the ratio of 41.9 % in the previous year.

www.ceicdata.com

So much of the misinformation is because of this

 

[Baloo]

I'm surprised so many of you took the IPA inspired bait in frick's post. If "Left Wing Billionaires" wasn't enough of a hint it was an IPA talking sheet, claiming the Libs are now so far Left they are where the ALP used to be was the other dead give away. I mean if the Libs have moved to the ALP's traditional left, Malcom Fraser must have been a Communist.

 

[AngryAnt]

I'm surprised so many of you took the IPA inspired bait in frick's post. If "Left Wing Billionaires" wasn't enough of a hint it was an IPA talking sheet, claiming the Libs are now so far Left they are where the ALP used to be was the other dead give away. I mean if the Libs have moved to the ALP's traditional left, Malcom Fraser must have been a Communist.

I also liked "left-wing institutions" like the CIA and the IMF

 

[Sintiger]

I also liked "left-wing institutions" like the CIA and the IMF

Categorising people, institutions and ideas into left and right and the pigeon holing that results in has always been a really lazy way of viewing the world imo.

 

[tigersnake]

I'm surprised so many of you took the IPA inspired bait in frick's post. If "Left Wing Billionaires" wasn't enough of a hint it was an IPA talking sheet, claiming the Libs are now so far Left they are where the ALP used to be was the other dead give away. I mean if the Libs have moved to the ALP's traditional left, Malcom Fraser must have been a Communist.

The IPA are a disgrace. Bunch of hacks who can't get a job in a Uni. They would be an irrelevancy relegated to Murdoch opinion pieces if it wasn't for Howard's masterstroke of changing the ABC charter to require 'balance' when discussing any topic.

Bankrolled by Gina Rinehart

 

[RoarEmotion]

Governments new religious discrimination stuff now into contracts.

Brisbane Christian college defends demanding parents sign contract on student gender identity, homosexuality

A parent and teacher at a Brisbane Christian college says she is removing her child after the principal demanded parents sign a contract requiring students identify as their birth gender and accept that homosexuality is "sinful".

www.abc.net.au

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The contract states "the college will only enrol the student on the basis of the gender that corresponds to their biological sex" to maintain consistent with the college's "Christian Ethos Requirements".

The contract goes on to state that the college "acknowledges the biological sex of a person as recognised at birth and requires practices consistent with that sex".

Another clause states the college has the right to "exclude a student from the college" should they not adhere to the "doctrinal precepts including those as to biological sex".

To keep their child enrolled at the school, parents must agree with a set of "religious beliefs" laid out in a "Declaration of Faith" attached to the contract.

Part of the declaration states that "any form of sexual immorality (including but not limited to; adultery, fornication, homosexual acts, bisexual acts, bestiality, incest, paedophilia, and pornography) is sinful and offensive to God and is destructive to human relationships and society".
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Religion trying to return us to the 50s.

 

[Baloo]

Part of the declaration states that "any form of sexual immorality (including but not limited to; adultery, fornication, homosexual acts, bisexual acts, bestiality, incest, paedophilia, and pornography) is sinful and offensive to God and is destructive to human relationships and society".
“

Obviously not a Roman Catholic school

 

[Tigers of Old]

National Press Club Q&A is worth watching .

Morrison being absolutely smashed by the journalists.

Dead. Man. Walking.

 

[Brodders17]

National Press Club Q&A is worth watching .

Morrison being absolutely smashed by the journalists.

Dead. Man. Walking.

Meanwhile, Network Ten journalist Peter van Onselen asked Scott Morrison about his relationship with former NSW premier Gladys Berejiklian, whom the PM has previously encouraged to run for federal politics.

Van Onselen read out text messages he said were between the former NSW premier and a current Liberal cabinet minister.

In one text, according to Van Onselen, Berejiklian labelled the PM a “horrible, horrible person”. The cabinet minister in question allegedly added that the PM was a “complete psycho”.

Australia news LIVE: Government defends cash bonuses for aged care staff; nation’s total COVID-19 cases continue to grow

The Prime Minister will today announce cash bonuses for aged care staff, the presumed Liberal candidate for Tony Abbott’s former seat has quit the race and Australia’s productivity watchdog says Victoria spends less money running public hospitals per person than any other state.

www.theage.com.au