ALP hasn't changed.
Same old same old.
They don't get in on their own merits, they get in on the LNP being the LNP and the whiny 10% wearing the other 90% down.
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Same old same old.
They don't get in on their own merits, they get in on the LNP being the LNP and the whiny 10% wearing the other 90% down.
Don't mistake informed hatred of the Liberal Party for blind love of Labor. But you are way more part of a much greater problem if you can't see Labor is superior to these corrupt, incompetent *smile* in every way.
I would love a double change in Government, both Feds and State. I can only see that happening Federal government.
My greatest concern is if the Greens hold any real power. Has anyone here read all of their policies?
I would love the ALP to adopt a more aggressive attitude to the Greens as they implement their election campaign and show their own environment policies that future generations will be proud of.
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Pilger with a different view of the Ukraine situation:
War in Europe and the rise of raw propaganda
Marshall McLuhans prophecy that the successor to politics will be propaganda has happened.Raw propaganda is now the rule in Western democracies, especially the US and Britain. From John Pilger in London.
johnmenadue.com
Yep.
Medicare, floating the dollar, deregulating the banks, Superannuation and the National Disability Insurance Scheme to name a few, have all come from labor governments.
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I have posted a few negative comments. And I have liked many negative comments by the group here. The Federal aged care minister is the biggest smile of them all. Which I have posted.I'd say your bias is showing through with this post because if we weigh up on a financial scale the corruption allegations leveled at the state Labor government versus the federal government its chalk and cheese. $400K (repaid) versus almost a billion dollars corruptly spent on projects targeting marginal or liberal held seats. Even if we look at the NSW liberal party alone, and look at the most recent corruption allegations leveled against them, the Labor party's recent crimes are a pittance. They are the opposite of Robin Hood, taking money from the poor areas with pokies and dishing it out to the wealthy suburbs who vote for them.
Poker machine losses funding projects in NSW Coalition seats
More than three-quarters of a $100 million NSW government gambling revenue grant program has been distributed to Coalition electorates and battleground seats over almost a decade.www.smh.com.au
Perhaps half the posters on this thread are actually more objective than you are when it comes to politics considering I only see you posting negatively about the ALP when the evidence is right in front of you?
My guess is that 35% of people will vote conservative no matter what.
30% of people will be a swinging voter.
35% will vote ALP or Green.
I’m in the 30% but voted conservative more.
While I think a majority of people who post are in the 35% ALP or Green. Which makes this tread an echo chamber.
I would love to read some posts in here by Liverpool trying to justify how Scott Morrison is decent. It would make for some more balanced reading.
I couldn't explain politics any better than this !!
A Russian Jew named Jacob was finally allowed to emigrate to Israel.
At the Moscow airport, a customs inspector found a statue of Lenin in his luggage and asked, "What is this?"
Jacob replied, "Wrong question, comrade. You should have asked, 'Who is this?.' This is Comrade Lenin. He laid the foundations of Socialism and created the future prosperity of the Russian people. I am taking it with me as a memory of our dear hero."
The Russian customs official sent him on his way.
At Tel Aviv airport, the Israeli customs official also asked, "What is this? "Wrong question, sir. You should be asking 'Who is this?', This, my friend, is Lenin, the bastard who caused me, a Jew, to leave Russia. I take this statue as a reminder to curse him every day."
The Israeli official sent him on his way.
When he settled in his new home, Jacob placed the statue on a table.
The following evening, he invited friends and relatives to dinner.
Spotting the statue, one of his cousins asked, "Who is this?."
Jacob replied, "Wrong question. You should have asked, 'What is this?.' This is five kilograms of solid gold that I managed to bring with me from Russia without having to pay any customs duty or tax."
The Moral: "Politics is when you can tell the same lie in different ways to fool different people and still come out smelling like a rose.
A Russian Jew named Jacob was finally allowed to emigrate to Israel.
At the Moscow airport, a customs inspector found a statue of Lenin in his luggage and asked, "What is this?"
Jacob replied, "Wrong question, comrade. You should have asked, 'Who is this?.' This is Comrade Lenin. He laid the foundations of Socialism and created the future prosperity of the Russian people. I am taking it with me as a memory of our dear hero."
The Russian customs official sent him on his way.
At Tel Aviv airport, the Israeli customs official also asked, "What is this? "Wrong question, sir. You should be asking 'Who is this?', This, my friend, is Lenin, the bastard who caused me, a Jew, to leave Russia. I take this statue as a reminder to curse him every day."
The Israeli official sent him on his way.
When he settled in his new home, Jacob placed the statue on a table.
The following evening, he invited friends and relatives to dinner.
Spotting the statue, one of his cousins asked, "Who is this?."
Jacob replied, "Wrong question. You should have asked, 'What is this?.' This is five kilograms of solid gold that I managed to bring with me from Russia without having to pay any customs duty or tax."
The Moral: "Politics is when you can tell the same lie in different ways to fool different people and still come out smelling like a rose.
Unfortunately Scomo is indefensible. I used to think he got a bit of a hard deal but he's a fraud. And a dangerous one.
We could have all state and a federal labor governments soon, has that ever happened in history?
I used to think we needed to move to 4 year terms to get anything done. The three year terms normally result in Year 1 paying back donors etc, Year two when stuff can actually happen. Year 3 is just electioneering. 1 Year out of 3 isn't enough.
But after seeing what Morrison has just done, I'm not so sure anymore.
I also think parliament must sit for a minimum number of days. 2021 saw the House sit only 67 days out of a possible 260 weekdays. This year there's less than 20 before the election. I'm not sure what the right number is but 50% of the available weekdays, 130 days, seems reasonable.
But after seeing what Morrison has just done, I'm not so sure anymore.
I also think parliament must sit for a minimum number of days. 2021 saw the House sit only 67 days out of a possible 260 weekdays. This year there's less than 20 before the election. I'm not sure what the right number is but 50% of the available weekdays, 130 days, seems reasonable.
yep, Morrison is actually a great PM, Joyce is one of our brightest ever Deputy PM,- yes we have Scott Morrison as our Prime Minister, and Barnaby Joyce as our Deputy Prime Minister. This government is doing a fantastic job, and it is only the "whiny 10%" who are bringing them down.
Perhaps for everyone's benefit, you can share all the current governments achievements?
Do you think having parliament sit actually achieves anything? (the current gov doesn't pass much of their promised legislation)
It just gives pollies (on all sides) the chance to yell, lie (under privilege) and act like fools, hoping for a news sound bite.
Senate estimates on the other hand should be more widely publicised, and there should be a way for senior pollies to be questioned more often in such a setting.- where they actually have to answer tough questions, and yelling and abusing isnt tolerated.
Probably the best achievement was relegating Shorten to a never was.
Why can't Labor just play a smart game for once?
Even with this unrelenting 10%, labor still don't have it in the bag by a mile because they are still the same old. Their affiliations with unions and the greens hurt them more than the contributors to this thread are willing to accept.
They didn't make wholesale changes to the shadow ministers when they had the chance, Albo and co are all old Labor.
The ALP should win from here but with some brave moves they would romp it in McGovern like.
The more you can keep them all in Canberra, the better for the rest of Australia.
But more sitting days would force more bills to be debated. It would be a lot harder for the Government of the day to stonewall promised legislation, like the ICAC.
Dunno. But while I wouldn't call the Australian Parliament broken, there's definitely some cracks that need to be addressed. if you'd prefer leaving it the way it is, vote #ScoMoTheWelder
So just to clarify, the current government, led by the esteemed Scott Morrison and respected Barnaby Joyce, is only going to lose the next federal election because the 'whiny 10%' has worn down the other 90%, but the only achievement you can list from their time in charge is winning the last election?
(Funnily enough I reckon Morrison would list that as his biggest achievement as well, because winning elections and keeping power is all he is actually concerned about.)
Because Dutton wanted to be the PM, and didn't have enough mates to vote him in. Then 2 days later Turnbull decided he couldn't be bothered any more.
He probably hoped Bishop would get the vote.
Sadly, Scomo won, Australia lost, but probably by a smaller margin than if Dutton was in charge.
It has never been about a 90%. Unless you are M McGowan.
It's all about the swing vote isn't it? Historically Labor are just dumb at the game.
10% either way, should be enough because most of us don't actually fall for either party being better than one or the other. And most of us are actually not represented by this threads pro Labor view.
For those who think it's the media's fault and the LNP spreading lies as to why Morrison is the PM, take a look at the opposition without the rose coloured glasses.
Shorten led largely the same team to the last election. My gut tells me it ain't the Government it's the opposition! I have said it since Albo took the reigns. Labor got it wrong in a big way, but they will get a chance by default on the 2 party preferred.
Labor is not aligned with the Greens. They don't like the Greens. The Greens voted with the Libs to defeat Labor's ETS, and they try to win Labor seats much more than they do Liberal seats. The Greens are a protest vote for petulant uni students and soccer mums who don't know how things work. They set purity tests for everyone else because they'll never have to carry the burden of actually being responsible.
Old Labor. *smile* me, we could do with a serving of that.
The conservatives are rightly embarrassed and disillusioned, that's why they aren't posting. There is no defending this government on any rational basis.
Liverpool? Balanced? He was/is a fruitcake. He was the right wing equivalent of an unreconstructed marxist-leninist card-carrying member of the ISO.