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Geez, that's not the experience in most industries. With unemployment so low wages are on the move.

In logistics wages have exploded, there are so many options for workers and not enough staff.

We pay well over the award but we are now paying basic warehouse workers $32/hour. It was $28 a year ago.


We cannot get container staff through most labour hire companies.

Transport companies cannot get drivers, wages for interstate drivers are at record highs.

A friend who runs a car dismantling and spare parts business is paying $50/hour for guys to take cars apart.

Surely inflation must be about to increase significantly?

what world are you living in? $32 per hour equates to a $63,000 annual salary based on a 38 hour week... which is below the national average. I earn more than that, but i am in no doubt i get paid unders for the amount of crap i have to deal with. But the team I manage earn less than $32 per hour… and honestly, I don’t know how they can live on that if you are mortgaged to your eyeballs.

But i do agree that there is a correction in some industries. Hospitality for example. after having their penalty rates cut, job security removed, and backpackers brought in on cheap labour… you only need to look at the “help wanted” signs and pubs and restaurants everywhere to know that workers in those industries have had enough of the exploitation. And employers need to offer more attractive salaries to bring in staff.

You mean those who take the risk of losing everything and work twice as many hours and often don't get paid?

when was the last time Luke Darcy poured beers at the Precinct? :mhihi

Yes, I do acknowledge some small business owners work long hours, especially when trying to establish themselves. But its like having children… when you take the plunge, you accept that there will be a lot of pain in the formative years in the hope that the rewards will come.
 
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Of course I do. Have done small business tax for 25 years. Seen good, bad etc etc. the biggest headache for any business is staff. Good ones always get looked after. Bad ones cost in dollars, time, stress, etc etc. Not one didn’t reward the better employees above and beyond. I didn’t deal with orgs larger than 30 employees but in small business good employees are gold and are looked after.
Most small business owners do 70 plus hours a week. And go to sleep and wake up thinking about their business. It’s rarely easy.

Your anecdotes do not constitute data.

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what world are you living in? $32 per hour equates to a $63,000 annual salary based on a 38 hour week... which is below the national average. I earn more than that, but i am in no doubt i get paid unders for the amount of crap i have to deal with. But the team I manage earn less than $32 per hour… and honestly, I don’t know how they can live on that if you are mortgaged to your eyeballs.

But i do agree that there is a correction in some industries. Hospitality for example. after having their penalty rates cut, job security removed, and backpackers brought in on cheap labour… you only need to look at the “help wanted” signs and pubs and restaurants everywhere to know that workers in those industries have had enough of the exploitation. And employers need to offer more attractive salaries to bring in staff.



when was the last time Luke Darcy poured beers at the Precinct? :mhihi

Yes, I do acknowledge some small business owners work long hours, especially when trying to establish themselves. But its like having children… when you take the plunge, you accept that there will be a lot of pain in the formative years in the hope that the rewards will come.
Read the Wholesale & Storage award Ian4. You know what the base rate is for a Level 4 Wholesale employee - $23.80. Level 1 is $22.26.

You think $32/hour is low for someone with no tertiary/trade qualifications? You can't be serious. No wonder you aren't running a business.

Exploitation rarely happens in small business. Mostly employees exploiting every loophole to get as much as they can for as little work as they can.

People begrudging small business owners doing well have no idea what most go through. I'll always side on the guy/girl having a crack.
 
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You public service experience qualifies you as an expert on small business?

Where I work is not something I presume you are privy to?

In any case, I asked for data, you offer anecdotes. Revealing really.

I never said I was some sort of expert on small business, nice straw man though, next time find a better one as this lacks effort.

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Mostly employees exploiting every loophole to get as much as they can for as little work as they can.


And . . . with that attitude I can well understand why employees would be trying to get as much as they can out of their employer, while looking for a job somewhere they are more appreciated.

If you assume that employees are always trying to slack off then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, why would anyone lift a finger for a boss who is constantly suspicious of their employees?

Employees are not a cost, they are an investment.

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Entire Australian towns have been engulfed by flood waters. Many people have lost everything. It’s a monumental disaster.
Meanwhile our Government is sending millions of dollars for war weapons to Ukraine..


Don't forget spending time in the NSW Courts after branding the NSW Libs "dysfunctional" and trying to take over in an effort to get Scotty's happy clapper mates pre-selection. This is the governments #1 priority at the moment.

Did I hear right that ScottyNotTooHotty branded Albanese a wannabe Mark McGowan? With McGowan having a massive approval rating and smashing the Libs at the last election so they were only left with 2 seats in parliament, I'm not sure how that is an insult.
 
Entire Australian towns have been engulfed by flood waters. Many people have lost everything. It’s a monumental disaster.
Meanwhile our Government is sending millions of dollars for war weapons to Ukraine..
Yes but, but.....................but, they're entitled to, $1,000 per adult and $400 for each child younger than 16.

Thats ******* peanuts !!!! :mad:


How much you can get

The Australian Government Disaster Recovery Payment is a lump sum payment.
If you’re eligible you’ll get:

  • $1,000 per adult
  • $400 for each child younger than 16.
 
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Barnaby Joyce, reckons the floods are one in 3,500 year event. What the........how do they calculate that:unsure:
 
Barnaby Joyce, reckons the floods are one in 3,500 year event. What the........how do they calculate that:unsure:

Barnyard "the climate is always changing, this is nothing new".

Also Barnyard "the climate never changes so I can confidently say a flood like this occurs once in every 3500 years"
 
The people of the Northern Rivers are absolutely furious and feel abandoned and betrayed by this government. The sight of ADF personnel in pristine clean khakis filming themselves emptying rubbish from a trailer to the side of the road while there are still people missing and roads literally crumbling and exhausted locals go out again, is causing outrage and disbelief.

The Nationals hold the federal seat of Page. For two more months. They'll never get it back.

 
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The people of the Northern Rivers are absolutely furious and feel abandoned and betrayed by this government. The sight of ADF personnel in pristine clean khakis filming themselves emptying rubbish from a trailer to the side of the road while there are still people missing and roads literally crumbling and exhausted locals go out again, is causing outrage and disbelief.

The Nationals hold the federal seat of Page. For two more months. They'll never get it back.


This is what happens when you have a low-end marketing man as the leader of a country. The rot spreads.
 
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