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Brodders17

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Robot debt anyone?

You dont expect anyone in this Liberal government to take responsibility for their *smile* ups, do you? There wouldn't be many left if they did.
I guess when the PM and deputy PM are happy to allow government members to deal in 'alternative' facts it makes it easy to deflect blame.
 
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DavidSSS

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it really isnt worth 'debating' with someone who doesnt think race is a thing, who doesnt think people get treated differently due to their skin colour, who equate teh BLM movement with those attacking the US parliament, who think Trump is just the same as any other politician, and whos views are all defined through his "libertarian" world view which does not allow anything which doesnt fit that belief to be considered.

Ignoring context is convenient for neo-libs, luckily most of us can see it for the BS that it is.

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tigerman

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Robot debt anyone?

The guy has more integrity than Morrison who was up to his ears as treasurer in the robodebt disgrace. Fat chance of Scotty from marketing resigning.
 
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Brodders17

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The Federal Government at work doing what they do best, nothing:

of course they arent implementing to RC's recommendations, they never wanted the RC in the first place.
the banks can do what they like.
people on a centrelink benefit though will literally be hounded to death, even when they are not in the wrong.
 
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glantone

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it really isnt worth 'debating' with someone who doesnt think race is a thing, who doesnt think people get treated differently due to their skin colour, ............

Race is a thing and skin colour does matter. Unfortunately. All over the world. Can’t think of a country where having darker skin commands more respect or is associated with privilege. It reflects class. Money.

Thai’s with light skin regard Thais with dark skin as low class, best suited to positions of servitude or farming. Dark skinned Thais are under represented in most industries where image ‘counts.’ Would not surprise if the rest of oriental asia was similar.

Apparently in the arab world, a word still in popular usage for black people is ‘abeed’ which means slave. Imagine using the word ‘slave’ when talking about black people here...

Even in India and Africa the rich like to have light skin.

Ironically woke identity politics and far right wingers will ensure that race and skin pigmentation (and religion) remain long term important considerations in how we view one another here.
 
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AngryAnt

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Race is a thing and skin colour does matter. Unfortunately. All over the world. Can’t think of a country where having darker skin commands more respect or is associated with privilege. It reflects class. Money.

Thai’s with light skin regard Thais with dark skin as low class, best suited to positions of servitude or farming. Dark skinned Thais are under represented in most industries where image ‘counts.’ Would not surprise if the rest of oriental asia was similar.

Same in Indonesia G-tone. Darker skin is associated with outdoor work, therefore lower class. It's not strictly a "race" thing. Paler skin is associated with beauty for women. interesting it then becomes chicken and egg, if you work outside you get darker skin and are therefore not "suitable" for other employment.

Foreign guys who come to Indoneesia tend to go for exotic looking girls, so they tend to go darker, or at least they don't care. Indonesian locals don't understand this as they consider darker to be "ugly".
 

Baloo

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Thai’s with light skin regard Thais with dark skin as low class, best suited to positions of servitude or farming. Dark skinned Thais are under represented in most industries where image ‘counts.’ Would not surprise if the rest of oriental asia was similar.

Yet when I was growing up in everyone was reaching for a bottle of Reef Oil when the first spring/summer days arrived in the hope of getting a nice rich dark tan. Always felt sorry for the rangas.
 

tigerdell

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Yet when I was growing up in everyone was reaching for a bottle of Reef Oil when the first spring/summer days arrived in the hope of getting a nice rich dark tan. Always felt sorry for the rangas.
Yeah if the rangas were smart they could be the leaders of the world.
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glantone

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Same in Indonesia G-tone. Darker skin is associated with outdoor work, therefore lower class. It's not strictly a "race" thing. Paler skin is associated with beauty for women. interesting it then becomes chicken and egg, if you work outside you get darker skin and are therefore not "suitable" for other employment.

Foreign guys who come to Indoneesia tend to go for exotic looking girls, so they tend to go darker, or at least they don't care. Indonesian locals don't understand this as they consider darker to be "ugly".

Yeah I hate it. Country people in Thailand are made to feel lesser human beings from a very early age. It's disgusting.

I've just thought of one place where having dark skin is an advantage - light skinned Thais are much more likely to be raped in a Thai jail than dark skinned Thais. I know this from a Thai friend who spent time in the big house.
 

Brodders17

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"When those 12 ships turned up in Sydney all those years ago, it wasn’t a particularly flash day for the people on those vessels either," Morrison

surely this quote is a pisstake? did Scott Morrison really say that? it is like half the Libs and Nats in this country are in a competition to say the stupidist thing.
 
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IanG

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"When those 12 ships turned up in Sydney all those years ago, it wasn’t a particularly flash day for the people on those vessels either," Morrison

surely this quote is a pisstake? did Scott Morrison really say that? it is like half the Libs and Nats in this country are in a competition to say the stupidist thing.

No he really said it, just demonstrating how ignorant he is.
 
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Baloo

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"When those 12 ships turned up in Sydney all those years ago, it wasn’t a particularly flash day for the people on those vessels either," Morrison

surely this quote is a pisstake? did Scott Morrison really say that? it is like half the Libs and Nats in this country are in a competition to say the stupidist thing.

This is the problem we're going to have with Trump now gone, more focus on our own politics. Yes, he said it. He also made some references to apologies having been made. Was he one of the Libs who walked out of the room when Krudd formally apologised? Abbott and Dutton were, I might be confusing the walkout with the joking about Pacific Nations soon being underwater.
 

Sintiger

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Same in Indonesia G-tone. Darker skin is associated with outdoor work, therefore lower class. It's not strictly a "race" thing. Paler skin is associated with beauty for women. interesting it then becomes chicken and egg, if you work outside you get darker skin and are therefore not "suitable" for other employment.

Foreign guys who come to Indoneesia tend to go for exotic looking girls, so they tend to go darker, or at least they don't care. Indonesian locals don't understand this as they consider darker to be "ugly".
Back in the day I worked in consumer products and skin lightener products were big all over the world for the company I worked for and for some others as well. These products have since been largely withdrawn (mainly because the major active ingredient hydroquinone has been listed as carcinogenic) but for years they were very big sellers in Asia, Africa and Latin/South America for all the reasons mentioned.
 
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Brodders17

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Now Morrison is giving the bigot Court further honours. it is almost like he trying to compete with Abbott as our most inept PM.
 
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IanG

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Now Morrison is giving the bigot Court further honours. it is almost like he trying to compete with Abbott as our most inept PM.

Its clearly something of a tactical ploy, calculated to outrage as Phillip Adams said. She doesn't remotely deserve it.