Tambling/ Pearce/ Davey

[tigersnake]

Reading between the lines here, and totally opposing posts like Linus and Dyer'ere, seems to me that the difference may be put down to hype, rumour, the whispers on the recruiting grapevine. Quick, playing for sturt, blitzed at the camp, not drafted at all. Very odd. Bit like Davey being branded 'troubled' because he was greiving for a dead relative or something or other.

Thing is the Davey, Pearce, Lovett phenomenon could cause an overreaction and any half-decent looking quick black players gets over hyped. Remember Ah Mat? Could be good for us getting KPPs. All mere speculation.

 

[Dyer'ere]

... I see it as a massive recruiting blunder for a team looking for speed to overlook a player like Pearce. As stated, he absolutely blitzed at the draft camp, cleaning up players like Delidio and Tambling in the sprints. For a player with those physical gifts it was a crime to let him fall through to the rookie list of that years premiers, one of the very last picks in the rookie draft.

We didn't have the budget to relocate a rookie that year, LC. Maybe we never will. I can see that you must have liked the lad at the time but overlooking him was entirely mainstream. 15 clubs did altogether.

He was a roughie who paid off. For now.

He played a "Greg Tivendale" role on the weekend. IMO although his skills have rounded out, his lack of mass will tell against him over time. Given that he plays his best footy up the park, he's going to be exposed to some powerful and malevolent forces. Let's hope they don't catch him.

As for whether we need a light running VERY small attacking outside midfield type, I've got my doubts. We've got enough lightweights IMO.

I'd rather have one fit Thursfield than Pearce.

 

[pahoffm]

Well done BJ on 4,000 posts.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Thanks, mate. :beer (Bit early for that. Is there a scotch emoticon? ;D)

 

[No 4]

As for whether we need a light running VERY small attacking outside midfield type, I've got my doubts. We've got enough lightweights IMO.

I'd rather have one fit Thursfield than Pearce.

good points:

during the draft presentation at RFC, GM gave his opinion on JON, Verco (geelong) & Dempsey a light weight (essendon) similiar to pearce.  His comment on dempsey was of this nature:
speed, will struggle to put on weight, brushed aside on 50/50 ball gets, best position is out of traffic.

the same can be said for Pearce and Davey.  tight checking top sides will see these players play below their best.

Tambling, I'm very impressed by the way he takes on players through heavy traffic.  His quick hands often ensure his team mates have the ball ahead of opposition players.

 

[tigersnake]

... I see it as a massive recruiting blunder for a team looking for speed to overlook a player like Pearce. As stated, he absolutely blitzed at the draft camp, cleaning up players like Delidio and Tambling in the sprints. For a player with those physical gifts it was a crime to let him fall through to the rookie list of that years premiers, one of the very last picks in the rookie draft.

We didn't have the budget to relocate a rookie that year, LC. Maybe we never will. I can see that you must have liked the lad at the time but overlooking him was entirely mainstream. 15 clubs did altogether.

He was a roughie who paid off. For now.

He played a "Greg Tivendale" role on the weekend. IMO although his skills have rounded out, his lack of mass will tell against him over time. Given that he plays his best footy up the park, he's going to be exposed to some powerful and malevolent forces. Let's hope they don't catch him.

As for whether we need a light running VERY small attacking outside midfield type, I've got my doubts. We've got enough lightweights IMO.

I'd rather have one fit Thursfield than Pearce.

I'm not saying we needed him, although you wouldn't say no, I'm more interested in the fact that nobody drafted him.  I think you're grossly understaing his value to Port Dyer'ere, he's given them something since he came in and steadily improved since.  As for lack of mass, if you're good, its a strength and after all he is a rover, but he seems to be bulking up alright to me.

I remember thinking at the time when that draft was on, as a few people posted too from memory, that there wasn't a lot to lose by rookying him but a big potential gain.

 

[tigersnake]

the same can be said for Pearce and Davey.  tight checking top sides will see these players play below their best.

Are you fair dinkum? You cant check that tight if you can't catch 'em.

again, this isn't about RFC's list or recruiting competence, its about how a player like Pearce can slip through the net.

 

[No 4]

the same can be said for Pearce and Davey.  tight checking top sides will see these players play below their best.

Are you fair dinkum?  You cant check that tight if you can't catch 'em.

again, this isn't about RFC's list or recruiting competence, its about how a player like Pearce can slip through the net.

They are fringe players, they depend upon hand outs, but can cut the defence with their quick leads. Having said that, they are very very good when the side is on top.

If you have to chase them, you can forget about it. You need a close tagger who can stop delivery, or push aside when there's a 50/50 contest.

when the side is struggling these players are most likely to drop off.

 

[pahoffm]

the same can be said for Pearce and Davey.  tight checking top sides will see these players play below their best.

Are you fair dinkum?  You cant check that tight if you can't catch 'em.

again, this isn't about RFC's list or recruiting competence, its about how a player like Pearce can slip through the net.

They are fringe players, they depend upon hand outs, but can cut the defence with their quick leads.  Having said that, they are very very good when the side is on top.

If you have to chase them, you can forget about it.  You need a close tagger who can stop delivery, or push aside when there's a 50/50 contest.

when the side is struggling these players are most likely to drop off.

I thought that was the whole point of outside footballers.

 

[tigersnake]

But what is your point no 4? KB was an outside player, all sides have 'em and need 'em, as long as they are fast and good.

 

[No 4]

But what is your point no 4?  KB was an outside player, all sides have 'em and need 'em, as long as they are fast and good.

the thread is making a comparsion between Tambling, Pearce & Davey. When clearly Tambling is a totally different position player to Pearce & Davey. There is no dispute about the excitement Pearce & Davey generate and the qualities these two young players have.

Tambling may not have the leg speed of the others, however, he can still cover a large distance within a short run.
Tambling's strength is his ability to weave through close quarters while still maintaining the ball before transfer of possession. That's what I've seen the past five games and I'm wrapped to have this type of player.

 

[tigersnake]

Your missing the point, as I said at the start, they are all very fast black talented rover types, who have quickly cemented a spot, of course they have differences no 2 players are clones, but were looked at in vastly different ways by recruiters. Even at the time some were saying Tambling was overrated and Pearce underrrated. I just find the disparity interesting, and was after any explaination.