Team Named to Face Bulldogs

[TigerMasochist]

OK so Wallace has gone on record saying that we will not be clogging up the game and we will use our pace and speed.

It is true that we have some speed.... Deledio, Tambling, Rance, White are all racehorses just to name a few.

Where is the best place on an AFL field to run with an "open field" in front of you?
Answer: Half Back

I can't wait to see who lines up on the HBF. Let's see how many minutes the above mentioned players spend at that position. Let's see who is the Richmond player getting the ball on the switch and see if they are a natural speedster.

Wallace has claimed he knows what he wants to do with speed, let's see if he can put the right people in the right places so they can actually use the speed.

Hopefully the pace between the ears matches or exceeds the pace across the ground.

 

[IanG]

King is ill disciplined and there are no obvious matchups for him as the Dogs rotate their small forwards through the midfield,

Yeah there is, Aker as was discussed earlier during the week.

 

[Pandaboy]

lol. So you're labeling Shane Edwards a dud already?

What is he 20 years old with 34 games to his name and just started his third season?

Pretty harsh on the kid.

We'll see. A bit early to be making that call IMO.

Ill be as blunt as I can with Edwards. The guy is not an AFL standard player. Sure he's only young and over time he will add some bulk to his skinny frame, but his kicking deficiencies and overall skills are something that will not just "magically" get better over time. It will be like trying to flog a dead horse. If ya don't have it, ya don't have it.

These deficiencies can be acceptable if he had other qualities, such as a great goal sense, or Jamie Lawson like speed but he possesses neither. IMO I think this is another blunder from Wallace and the recruitment staff.

We need to draft/recuit kids who can reliably KICK the ball. This should be at the top of their list. Our reputation over the past decade is of a side who has terrible skills and EVERYONE knows it. We are the laughing stock of the competition when it comes to basic skills. We need to change that culture. Just look at the direction the Hawks had. They obviously have taken aim at beautiful left foot kicks - Young, Hodge, Tuck, Rioli, Ellis, Franklin, Roughhead, Dew, Suckling, . . . etc

 

[The_General]

Ill be as blunt as I can with Edwards. The guy is not an AFL standard player. Sure he's only young and over time he will add some bulk to his skinny frame, but his kicking deficiencies and overall skills are something that will not just "magically" get better over time. It will be like trying to flog a dead horse. If ya don't have it, ya don't have it.

Edwards is truly down on form at the moment, and his kicking can be shakey at times. But I've also seen it be, very very good. Not just "McMahon" good, but genuinely good. Threading passes in the midfield at coburg through 2-3 opponents and hitting a teammate on the chest. It's no where near consistent enough, and I think his slight build doesn't help as he's too easily bumped off the ball and tires towards the end of a game, making his decision making and ability to execute below where it normally is. He has great hands, and can find a team mate in a pack quite well. He's too small to play inside though, that's the down side.

He will make it, I've got no doubt, if he can add a few more kgs to his frame. He doesn't have to be "big" but if he were 78kgs or there abouts, I think he'd be a much better player.

 

[TigerMasochist]

We need to change that culture. Just look at the direction the Hawks had. They obviously have taken aim at beautiful left foot kicks - Young, Hodge, Tuck, Rioli, Ellis, Franklin, Roughhead, Dew, Suckling, . . . etc

Gawd help us, left foot kicks to save the Tigers phhht! We did that some years ago, by the time Spudley was firmly entrenched we had about seven or eight of them in the side.
Vague booze addled nightmare memories tell me Knighter may have been one. Lemme see now Tivver, yeah I think Tivver may have been a cackhander. Glory hallelujah I think I've forgotten who the rest of our glorious lefties were in those dim dark times.
Aaaarrrrgh spare me the revolution of the onesided left of centre cultural saviours.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Ill be as blunt as I can with Edwards. The guy is not an AFL standard player. Sure he's only young and over time he will add some bulk to his skinny frame, but his kicking deficiencies and overall skills are something that will not just "magically" get better over time. It will be like trying to flog a dead horse. If ya don't have it, ya don't have it.

These deficiencies can be acceptable if he had other qualities, such as a great goal sense, or Jamie Lawson like speed but he possesses neither. IMO I think this is another blunder from Wallace and the recruitment staff.

We'll see Kung Fu Panda.
Shane has weaknesses in his game at this point sure.
I agree with you that his footskills ain't the best on occasions but he's got magnificent hand balling ability and some of his work in tight is as good as anyone we have on the list IMO. Disagree if you like but I've seen it.

He's still in the very early stages of his career and needs games which he's pleasingly getting.
It's still too early to label him a dud or a good footballer.

With experience I hope will come size and more composure. You may disagree.
Personally I won't write him off by a long shot yet and I can see why the club hasn't either.

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

Having read the Couburg reports I think Wallace is a fool and the selection panel is are his mindless lackeys, JoN would have been named in the team, YEAH! WHOOO.... whose with me?



:tumbleweed

 

[Baloo]

I'm with you Col. JON has finally "clicked" at worked out what is required to play seniors. He has trained the house down and is locked & loaded for the year.

Bring on JON. Without Sanchez in the squad, we're desperately short one PRE whipping boy.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Heh..Imagine the fallout if JoN and McMahon get the callup next week.

 

[WesternTiger]

Heh..Imagine the fallout if JoN and McMahon get the callup next week.

At the expense of Rance and Hislop! :hihi

 

[the claw]

We'll see Kung Fu Panda.
Shane has weaknesses in his game at this point sure.
I agree with you that his footskills ain't the best on occasions but he's got magnificent hand balling ability and some of his work in tight is as good as anyone we have on the list IMO. Disagree if you like but I've seen it.

He's still in the very early stages of his career and needs games which he's pleasingly getting.
It's still too early to label him a dud or a good footballer.

With experience I hope will come size and more composure. You may disagree.
Personally I won't write him off by a long shot yet and I can see why the club hasn't either.

hmm he needs games. he has played a possible 34 games out of 44. on 6 other occasions he was named as an emergency. the way i see it hes been given every opportunity. hes far enough into development that you dont gift him games. he is certainly far enough into development to say to him consistently poor performances will not be tolerated.this applies or should apply to all players outside of early development.

at this stage of his career i think it far more important he goes back to the ressies and works on all areas of his game. if he cant crack it as a mid he wont make it at all. at 76 kg he wont make it except as a running out side player. those players really do have to have excellent footskills and have genuine pace, edwards has neither.

get him into the weights get another 7 kg on him get his aerobic capacity up to where it should be and he may be able to compensate for his lack of skills.

at this stage i would be playing collins in edwards place and i would be saying to andy dont worry about form we want to have a look at you for 3 or 4 games go out and give us your best.

 

[Tigers of Old]

hmm he needs games. he has played a possible 34 games out of 44. on 6 other occasions he was named as an emergency. the way i see it hes been given every opportunity. hes far enough into development that you dont gift him games. he is certainly far enough into development to say to him consistently poor performances will not be tolerated.this applies or should apply to all players outside of early development.

at this stage of his career i think it far more important he goes back to the ressies and works on all areas of his game. if he cant crack it as a mid he wont make it at all. at 76 kg he wont make it except as a running out side player. those players really do have to have excellent footskills and have genuine pace, edwards has neither.

get him into the weights get another 7 kg on him get his aerobic capacity up to where it should be and he may be able to compensate for his lack of skills.

at this stage i would be playing collins in edwards place and i would be saying to andy dont worry about form we want to have a look at you for 3 or 4 games go out and give us your best.

Don't disagree with much of that.
Like I said in another post I would have dropped him this week, I just haven't given up on him.
Rightly or wrongly he's been given another chance today.
It's in our best interests that Eddy comes good. Hopefully he plays well.

 

[Rosy]

It's in our best interests that Eddy comes good. Hopefully he plays well.

I agree, and same about all our players, but you get the feeling some are almost willing them to have shockers.

 

[Brodders17]

As for Richie T coming straight back in this is the problem with us for the last 25 years that a player who averages 12 possies a game returns as an automatic selection, and no before someone says you're blaming Richie for the last 25 years i'm not it just shows the lack of depth this club has had and continues to have.

who averages 12 possies a game??
richie did in 2006
he's career average is 13.6, last year he averaged 17.4.

 

[the claw]

Don't disagree with much of that.
Like I said in another post I would have dropped him this week, I just haven't given up on him.
Rightly or wrongly he's been given another chance today.
It's in our best interests that Eddy comes good. Hopefully he plays well.

the trick for the club is working out without it taking forever if edwards has to many deficiencies or if they can be overcome to enable him to come good and become a consistent afl player.