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Team vs. Port

The team has a poor structure which ever way you look at it.

Honestly for the rest of the year we should be playing two ruckman (say Graham and Browne/Pattison); play Simmonds as a permanent CHF; Hughes/Vickery/Gourdis or Post as the FF with Riewoldt as the third lead-up tall.

Morton, Brown, Connors or Nahas get two out of the three remaining spots. The final forward line spot goes to resting mid-fielders such as Lids; Cotchin or Cousins.

Come on coaching staff - at least give the team a forward structure to score.

The back half and mid-field look ok save for the foot skills/footy smarts of a few of them.
 
tigerfan1961 said:
Have been saying for a while that not only is the game plan crap, that we also select sides with NO structure. I agree with most of what you said, but Polo is a smart footballer who to me, has been using the footy ok.

With respect to KPD's, we do have young Rance out injured, and Thursfield is only being kept at Coburg (from what I am led to believe) to improve thje offensive side of his game. It is KPF's where I have real concerns.

First step to stop the rot is to immediately change the game plan and get the ball moving QUICKLY into F50, and pick some tall forward line players.
i understand where your coming from and agree in a way. the angle im coming from with our kpds is we could concievably and probably should go into games with thursfield rance mcguane and moore as a running flanker. i have no problem with these 4 starting week in week out but what happens when two get hurt or 3 of them there is no one else. the list is three tall defenders shy of what it should have and yep the forwaeds are in similar trouble if not worse especially if richardson goes.
the other concern with our kpds that i have is while they meet minimal height requirements they all lack size except rance who will be a decent size. well i think he will it is richmond where players never seem to thrive in this area.
 
the claw said:
i understand where your coming from and agree in a way. the angle im coming from with our kpds is we could concievably and probably should go into games with thursfield rance mcguane and moore as a running flanker. i have no problem with these 4 starting week in week out but what happens when two get hurt or 3 of them there is no one else.

Surprise I agree :help, could even play that line up with Rance as the running defender. I note that Geelong yesterday played Scarlett, Harley, Lonergan, Taylor and Milburn in defence, which is a similar line up only even taller.
 
IanG said:
Surprise I agree :help, could even play that line up with Rance as the running defender. I note that Geelong yesterday played Scarlett, Harley, Lonergan, Taylor and Milburn in defence, which is a similar line up only even taller.
surprised im shocked ive never really said anything different. ive often said we should do better than mcguane ive often said we need at least one more who is in the lake mould or presti mould a merrett etc we should develop a 195cm at least 95kg kpdit hits you in the face as to what we are lacking in kpds on the list. every time i bring this up the debate degenerates into the games changed we dont need these this type yet most clubs have at least one.

just on geelong look at the other types who play in the back half regularly. enright 187cm 92 kg.josh hunt 186cm 100kg mackie 192cm 85kg lonergan has taken egan job egan has been kept on the list 196cm 101kg aa chb. just look at the size and depth rooke is another at 189 92 hes capable of temporarily holding down a kp if need be. milburn is exactly the same.scarlett taylor harley kids gin gillies and mckenna it shows the effort geelong are prepared to put in to have a strong well structured defence. the numbers alone make us chalk and cheese height size skills just make it worse. we are 3 kpds short and people scoff at it.
 
the claw said:
i understand where your coming from and agree in a way. the angle im coming from with our kpds is we could concievably and probably should go into games with thursfield rance mcguane and moore as a running flanker. i have no problem with these 4 starting week in week out but what happens when two get hurt or 3 of them there is no one else. the list is three tall defenders shy of what it should have and yep the forwaeds are in similar trouble if not worse especially if richardson goes.
the other concern with our kpds that i have is while they meet minimal height requirements they all lack size except rance who will be a decent size. well i think he will it is richmond where players never seem to thrive in this area.
Agree again, play all four of them and let them grow together. I also agree that the lack of back-up KPD's is a concern but isn't young Post being groomed for the role as well, and he does have more size than the others, and is very mobile as well. As I said, our lack of quality tall forwards is a big big concern to me (as well as that shocking game plan!!!).