Telstra Dome

[meltiger]

Hate all the passive smoking you have to put up with in the crowd after a game.

Because of course no one would dare smoke walking out of the G after a game ...

 

[mld]

Hate all the passive smoking you have to put up with in the crowd after a game.

Because of course no one would dare smoke walking out of the G after a game ...

To be fair the passive smoking is much worse when stuck in a bottleneck that isn't moving.

 

[meltiger]

Hate all the passive smoking you have to put up with in the crowd after a game.

Because of course no one would dare smoke walking out of the G after a game ...

To be fair the passive smoking is much worse when stuck in a bottleneck that isn't moving.

Fair enough, but that's not different than trying to get out of the Southern Stand and down to Richmond station.

 

[skybeau]

Hate all the passive smoking you have to put up with in the crowd after a game.

Because of course no one would dare smoke walking out of the G after a game ...

To be fair the passive smoking is much worse when stuck in a bottleneck that isn't moving.

Fair enough, but that's not different than trying to get out of the Southern Stand and down to Richmond station.

Its hardly a bottleneck walking from the Southern Stand, meltiger. It only really occurs when you actually get to the station, not all the way to it. And then its really only a quick zap through, then your at your platform. Add to that the other public transport options and you rarely if ever get a bottleneck of Dome proportions.

The dome bottleneck is shocking. Passive smoking or not.

 

[Anduril]

Hate all the passive smoking you have to put up with in the crowd after a game.

Because of course no one would dare smoke walking out of the G after a game ...
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To be fair the passive smoking is much worse when stuck in a bottleneck that isn't moving.

Fair enough, but that's not different than trying to get out of the Southern Stand and down to Richmond station.

Actually it is! At the Dump you are crammed in like sardines on the way to the station, whereas at the G a stroll through the carpark to the station means plenty of fresh air. The kids have NEVER remarked about the passive smoking after a game at the G.

 

[AngryAnt]

The Dome is an awful dump.

I hate it.

 

[TigerForce]

The Dome is an awful dump.

I hate it.

Sounds like an empty basketball stadium with fake grass.

 

[Liverpool]

People complaining about tickets should go and buy a membership to begin with, then they wouldn't have a problem.

I have a membership and I've explainmed my problems.  They aren't a problem at the G though.  Not everyone can afford memberships and it's a blight on the ground if it needs memberships to avoid ticketing problems.

Spencer-Street Station is closer to the Dome, than Richmond/Jolimont is from the MCG.

It often takes longer to walk to Spencer St than it takes to get to Jolimont after a game though no matter how much closer it is.

And remember....the Dome replaced Arctic-Park...sitting in the rain, cold, and I'll never forget that 1995 Prelim against Geelong out there  ...THE worst stadium in living memory....so people should think about that also before bagging the Dome.

Soft!!!  ;D  I'd far prefer to put the wet weather gear on and rug up than watch footy in an enclosed stadium. 

Last week, I voted on a poll here, and chose the 9-games at the 'G and 2-games at the Dome....how anybody would rather see their team play home games interstate (like Tassie) over the Dome is beyond comprehension!  :

9-2 wasn't an option on the poll. 

Rosy,
* The 'G is simply a bigger stadium and thus has more gates...so of course, its easier to get in if you have to pay cash. Luckily, I don't pay cash...but when swiping my card, have had no trouble at either ground getting in within 1-2 minutes of lining-up in the queue.
* Soft? ??? Uhm...I think complaining about a stadium because of feeling faint on top the of grandstand is pretty soft too! :hihi If you ever want a headspin, go to the top of the new Ponsford at the 'G. I was up there for the soccer, and could see the top of the roof of the Southern Stand!
* O.k...wasn't 9-2...was it 7-4? Either way, I want to see my team play 'live' at the Dome or wherever over any crazy idea of playing home games interstate!

 

[Rosy]

Good onya Liverpool.  We all have our own preferences and desires.  It's laughable how some people try to defend the dump at all costs.  It's nothing personal if some of us aren't big fans of the Doll's House.  I've given my reasons why I don't like it. Why not just accept it as I accept other's right to love the place?   

 

[Liverpool]

Good onya Liverpool.  We all have our own preferences and desires.  It's laughable how some people try to defend the dump at all costs.  It's nothing personal if some of us aren't big fans of the Doll's House.  I've given my reasons why I don't like it. Why not just accept it as I accept other's right to love the place?   

Rosy,
Yes, I have no problem with people not liking the Dome.
But those same people say its laughable when people say they think its an o.k stadium!
I do have a problem with people preferring my team plays home games in another state, in preference to playing here in Melbourne though!

 

[Ian4]

[I've split this from the home game poll because it's a topic worthy of it's own thread. rosy]

What I want to know is why people are so against Telstra Dome? I much prefer the MCG. It's not even a contest between the two venues, but, why the angst over Telstra dump? It's something I just don't understand.

The facilities are pretty decent, it's in the same city as our real home ground, and above all else we are going to have to learn to win there.

i agree although i the spectator facilities at the dome are miles head of the G

The reasons I don't like the Dump....in no particular order.

• Not as convenient for us to get to and that's a considerable factor when we travel 5-6 hours to attend a game
• I have a phobia of heights and get very faint on the top level where we're expected to sit if we don't have reserved seats.
  
• We're pretty much last minute decision makers and I don't like the fact we can't just show up and be guaranteed entry as you can most weeks at the G. It's a long way to go to be turned away as happened to my son a few weeks ago.
• The ticketing system is crap. It takes forever for them to print out pre-booked tickets if you have to pick them up at the ground and the queues are long. Plenty of people complain they miss the start of the game because of it.
• To me footy is an outdoor game and I love watching the game in the different elements. I love a wet weather slog fest equally or more than I do a perfect weather shootout.
• I think the perfect conditions favour good home teams percentage wise and can influence the ladder. There's not a lot left to the elements evening teams out.
• We play better at the G and get better attendances. I'm disappointed we can't use that to our advantage often enough.
• Even Terry has commented about the surface of the Dump in regard to injuries and players not pulling up as fit after a game.
• The massive bottleneck over the walk way after the game is terrible. Drunks staggering and spewing, angry supporters, little kids lost in a sea of legs. Claustrophobia paradise and an unpleasant situation waiting to happen.
• I don't think it has the atmosphere of the G and to me that detracts from the experience.
• The G is next to our hallowed ground at Punt Road and you can have a snag and catch up with friends there before a home game.
• I'm sure I can think of more if I try. ;D
  

Rosy,
- the dome is no further away than the G, if anything it's more convenient as it's on the edge of the CBD and next to a major train station
- i've never had a problem getting a ticket to the dome the last few years. the ticketing has improved dramatically. you just need to find out the best place to get a ticket (not gate 2)
- footy may be an outdoor game but it is played in winter. i for one am very happy to go to the dome with no threat of getting wet (i'm going to the roos v blues game this next week as my bro follows the roos, but if the game was at the G there is no way i would be going).
- so home teams at the dome would have a higher %??? i would bet you scores at the dome are lower than at other grounds this year...
- so what if we play better at the G? if we played better at subiaco should we play home games there? there is no logic in that statement... and besides we have to learn to play everywhere!
- agree about the surface issues. collo is a stubborn bugger which doesn't help PR
- i agree there can be bottlenecks post game. they need to build another footbridge between lonsdale st and the dome and have more platforms for suburban trains
- i believe the atmosphere is fantastic because the dome is a closed in stadium, but no stadium in the world has the atmopshere of the G (because of the history in the place).

People complaining about tickets should go and buy a membership to begin with, then they wouldn't have a problem.

Last week, I voted on a poll here, and chose the 9-games at the 'G and 2-games at the Dome....how anybody would rather see their team play home games interstate (like Tassie) over the Dome is beyond comprehension! :

here here on both accounts :clap

It's laughable how some people try to defend the dump at all costs.

excuse me Rosy? should i think it's laughable how some people constantly bag the dome???

I do have a problem with people preferring my team plays home games in another state, in preference to playing here in Melbourne though! 

liverpool i agree. i'm absolutely distraught some poeple would rather play a home game interstate. i can't get over that. these people should be ashamed of themselves!!! :'( :'( :'(

 

[Rosy]

Ian the point I meant to make is people get up others for voicing their dislike of the Dump when it's only personal opinion.  As soon as someone mentions they don't like the place their comments are swooped on wanting justification.   I couldn't care less if others like it or not and won't argue their opinion.  Each to their own.   The fact is the majority of Richmond supporters prefer the G.

It's pretty self centred is to tell people they should be ashamed of their opinions just because you don't agree. :blah

P.S.  The Dump is no further away from the G than where? :

 

[Ian4]

P.S.  The Dump is no further away from the G than where? :

i'm talking about convenience. people say the G is easier to get to, easier to get in, etc. i argue there is not much difference these days. people have problems getting into the dome because they all line up in the same area. people should try trial and error... it usually works. the other thing about the dome is that they have other entertainment pre-game to encourage people to get there earier (livewire section-> cougar bar, vic bar, locker room, pokies, restaurants, a band sometimes plays, TAB, big screens to watch other footy games, etc). the G doesn't have anything like that

 

[Rosy]

[quote author=Ian4 ]the dome is no further away than the G, if anything it's more convenient as it's on the edge of the CBD and next to a major train station[/quote]

In regard to the above comment if we go by public transport the train goes past the G and can take over half an hour to get from there to the dump depending on changeovers, waiting time and traffic.

 

[Ian4]

not all supporters live on the MCG side of the city. and 30 minutes is an exaggeration. my boss pays for my train ticket so i catch public transport all the time. it's not that hard to work out the most convenient way to get around. if the train is too long there are always trams through the CBD or the city circle tram (which takes you right to the dome entrance and you avoid the bourke st footbridge altogether).

 

[Rosy]

not all supporters live on the MCG side of the city.

Exactly and that's why I questioned your original comment.  It's not more convenient, as you claimed, for everyone.

and 30 minutes is an exaggeration. my boss pays for my train ticket so i catch public transport all the time.

It's not an exaggeration at all no matter who pays for your ticket.  I commented in regard to our own experience. There can be 10 minute + wait at Flinders St station.  Twice we had to get off the train and onto a bus and that took well over half an hour.

If I go down alone it takes me close to 3 hours to get to the ground. I can do without the extra stuffing around.

 

[Ian4]

i'm over it, lol

 

[Rosy]

i'm over it, lol

Checkmate. :hihi

 

[meltiger]

Ian the point I meant to make is people get up others for voicing their dislike of the Dump when it's only personal opinion. 

Rosy, my problem is not that people don't like TD. To be honest, it's not my favourite place either and to be honest, if we didn't play home games there I probably wouldn't have bought a reserved seat this year.

My problem was always with relocating the team, because people are scared of change...