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[Tigers of Old]

Mark Knight has shut down all his social media due to the push back on this.

 

[Panthera Tigris]

Mark Knight has shut down all his social media due to the push back on this.

Without social media, much of this hyper-sensitive political environment wouldn't exist. So if more people would do this, it would go someway to giving hyper-sensitive PC culture less of a platform.

The HS is making a stand. Not unhappy if this episode becomes a public battleground against creeping communism.

What this movement is trying to achieve, is that only African American cartoon artists can draw African American people, only Korean cartoon artists can drawn Korean people, only Aboriginal cartoon artists can draw Aboriginal people, only gay male cartoon artists can draw gay males, only lesbian cartoon artists can draw lesbians, only transgender cartoon artists can draw transgender people and so forth. However I suspect one identity group that is free reign to everyone else is straight, white males.

Extending on this, the same principles apply to other forms of art, acting, comedy, writing (both fiction and non fiction) and so on. That is the intersectionality movement for you.

 

[tigertim]

Mark Knight has shut down all his social media due to the push back on this.

And the try hards will take this as a victory. But remember, bullying is not acceptable.......

 

[IanG]

What this movement is trying to achieve, is that only African American cartoon artists can draw African American people, only Korean cartoon artists can drawn Korean people, only Aboriginal cartoon artists can draw Aboriginal people, only gay male cartoon artists can draw gay males, only lesbian cartoon artists can draw lesbians, only transgender cartoon artists can draw transgender people and so forth.

Or cartoonists actually take the time to ensure they don't use stereotypical tropes based in bigotry, the Knight cartoon was not the only way Williams could have been portrayed and he didn't have to portray Osaka as a lily white blonde.

 

[Harry]

Not sure how knight could have drawn serena without being labelled racist.

 

[TigerForce]

Or cartoonists actually take the time to ensure they don't use stereotypical tropes based in bigotry, the Knight cartoon was not the only way Williams could have been portrayed and he didn't have to portray Osaka as a lily white blonde.

How and where do you see the racist side? Osaka only shows a blonde ponytail and brown skin as Knight drew.

 

[IanG]

How and where do you see the racist side? Osaka only shows a blonde ponytail and brown skin as Knight drew.

She looks pretty white and her hair is fully blonde in the cartoon not just the tips. I've already said why I think Williams is basically a caricature based on racist stereotypes.

 

[tigertim]

I thought it was terribly racist how he drew the umpire as Anglo when’s he of Hispanic heritage.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

What this movement is trying to achieve, is that only African American cartoon artists can draw African American people, only Korean cartoon artists can drawn Korean people, only Aboriginal cartoon artists can draw Aboriginal people, only gay male cartoon artists can draw gay males, only lesbian cartoon artists can draw lesbians, only transgender cartoon artists can draw transgender people and so forth. However I suspect one identity group that is free reign to everyone else is straight, white males.

Extending on this, the same principles apply to other forms of art, acting, comedy, writing (both fiction and non fiction) and so on. That is the intersectionality movement for you.

Is that the same principle as co-opting the 'n' word?

There are obvious conflicts with the goals of multiculturalism.

nationalism > tribes

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Or cartoonists actually take the time to ensure they don't use stereotypical tropes based in bigotry, the Knight cartoon was not the only way Williams could have been portrayed and he didn't have to portray Osaka as a lily white blonde.

What are these so-called racist characteristics? Be specific. What features am I supposed to see that are demeaning to black people?

 

[TigerForce]

She looks pretty white and her hair is fully blonde in the cartoon not just the tips. I've already said why I think Williams is basically a caricature based on racist stereotypes.

I can't see white in Osaka. The cartoon shows a brown-skinned face, but either way, isn't the 'victim' Serena a 'black' oops dark-skinned person anyway?

Funny how the 'victim' hasn't even made a comment on this cartoon and yet 'keyboard warriors' in a global social media just keep attacking Knight....even littering their comments into his new cartoon and some old ones.

 

[MD Jazz]

The sambo element deserves criticism. Nothing else does. Knight should have known better.

Reminds me of Hey Hey it’s Saturday allowing a black face troupe on Red Faces.

I disagree to the point that a caricature generally accentuates features - in Serena's case the picture is clearly her, the big lips and big booty. She should be flattered, many women pay a small fortune to enhance their lips and behinds. Also, the representation of rage is entirely accurate.

I think its nothing like the Red faces skit personally.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

I can't see white in Osaka. The cartoon shows a brown-skinned face, but either way, isn't the 'victim' Serena a 'black' oops dark-skinned person anyway?

Funny how the 'victim' hasn't even made a comment on this cartoon and yet 'keyboard warriors' in a global social media just keep attacking Knight....even littering their comments into his new cartoon and some old ones.

He got her outfit and hair spot on. She also broke her racquet in a fit of temper, although she didn't stamp on it. She was losing at tge time and the tantrum is right out of the Williams playbook. It just didn't work this time.

 

[KnightersRevenge]

The sambo element deserves criticism. Nothing else does. Knight should have known better.

Reminds me of Hey Hey it’s Saturday allowing a black face troupe on Red Faces.

Yup. Not a bleeding heart on this. Satire has a place and Knight has done some good stuff. Serena deserves to be called out for her poor sportsmanship. She is a fierce competitor but it spills over into abuse at times. Even so the resemblance to the "black sambo" is unmistakable. Knight deserves what he gets on that front.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Even so the resemblance to the "black sambo" is unmistakable. Knight deserves what he gets on that front.

What is this mysterious "black sambo" that we're all supposed to have ingrained into our consciousness? What is the stereotypical likeness that we're supposed to refer to when we see the cartoon? Example images welcome.

Nobody has yet made a case for the cartoon being racist that gives cause for second thought. The grief seems to be coming from a black heroine being depicted in a negative (but accurate, within the bounds of satire) light.

 

[TigerForce]

I always thought he used the pig to explain the cartoon to his slower readers.

I remember Paul Keating was some reason for this in Knight's early days.

 

[Tigers of Old]

It's the age of outrage. I have honestly been staggered by the OTT reaction to this cartoon.

 

[Midsy]

What is this mysterious "black sambo" that we're all supposed to have ingrained into our consciousness? What is the stereotypical likeness that we're supposed to refer to when we see the cartoon? Example images welcome.

Nobody has yet made a case for the cartoon being racist that gives cause for second thought. The grief seems to be coming from a black heroine being depicted in a negative (but accurate, within the bounds of satire) light.

Yep.

 

[IanG]

It's the age of outrage. I have honestly been staggered by the OTT reaction to this cartoon.

I'm not outraged, I just think its racist.

 

[Brodders17]

It's the age of outrage. I have honestly been staggered by the OTT reaction to this cartoon.

i dont have a view on the cartoon, but have you tried to understand why people are offended?
looking st the history of how black americans have been depicted in cartoons over time, and the intention of those depictions, often from times where they were very much 3rd class citizens?