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The Adam Treloar situation and the AFLPA

TigerMasochist

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Adam Treloar was left “broken-hearted” by his exit from Collingwood, but the club says it only happened because of his wife.


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Collingwood has incredibly claimed Adam Treloar would still be playing for the Magpies in 2021 if his wife had not made the decision to continue her netball career in Queensland.

Treloar’s wife, Kim Ravaillion, is an Australian player who used to play for Collingwood’s netball team but took the 2020 season off to give birth to the couple’s daughter, Georgie.
She fielded offers from several clubs after making a decision to return to the sport before signing with the Queensland Firebirds.
It wasn’t an easy call given it would mean taking Georgie to live interstate away from Treloar, and prompted Collingwood to see if their 27-year-old midfielder, who was contracted on big money through the 2025 season, wanted to follow her north.
What followed was one of the messier exits a star player has had from an AFL club.
Adam Treloar, wife Kim, and daughter Georgie.

Adam Treloar, wife Kim, and daughter Georgie.Source:Instagram

Treloar and Ravaillion’s names have been in headlines almost daily since and the saga – which included him being linked to the Gold Coast Suns for a time before being sent to the Western Bulldogs – didn’t end until the final day of the AFL Trade Period.
But to make matters worse Magpies list manager Ned Guy has claimed the club would not have even considered moving Treloar if Ravaillion hadn’t chosen to play for the Queensland Firebirds.
“We had some conversations with Adam and (his manager) Tim (Hazell) originally around whether his family was going to move to Queensland and whether he wanted to do that and it evolved from having that conversation to he thought he’d look at another opportunity,” Guy told Fox Footy.


Asked directly if Collingwood would have looked to trade Treloar if Ravaillion had chosen to continue her career in Victoria, Guy said: “That was the catalyst for the discussion. We wouldn’t have looked to have that discussion … it wouldn’t have evolved from that, I wouldn’t have thought, no.”
Guy’s statements – that Treloar “thought he’d look at another opportunity” and the Magpies weren’t considering trading him until his family situation changed – contrast with the snippets we’ve heard from the Treloar camp.
Adam Treloar played 94 games for Collingwood. (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

Adam Treloar played 94 games for Collingwood. (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)Source:Getty Images

Treloar’s manager Tim Hazell said his client was disappointed “to get the tap on the shoulder”.
As the final day of the trade period began and Treloar’s future was still unsecured the Herald Sun’s Jon Ralph said “people close to him say that he is broken-hearted”.
After the Magpies sent him to the Dogs along with picks 26, 33 and 42 in the draft in exchange for pick 14, Treloar’s close friend and former GWS teammate Sam Darley tweeted: “One day all will be revealed but all I can say is Ads is one happy man to be a Western Bulldog but as much as it’s a business the way he was treated was embarrassing. Understand it’s a business but wow hope it’s all told one day.”
Treloar is scheduled to hold a press conference at Whitten Oval on Friday.
Obvious question is where were his partner and child while he's been living in the hub all this year?

If they were all together in the hub all year, then maybe the separation could have some anxiety effects on Trelol. If they already spent a large portion of this time apart then another season apart probably wouldn't have much effect. With skype n $900 thou to cover airfares for a few " dirty weekends with the cook " it surely should be easy enough to get through one season.
 

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What I don’t get is that the AFL supposedly scrutinises all contracts to make sure that they fit under the salary cap and that clubs are not trying to get around the rules.

Then a club turns up with half on its contracts having deferred payments. How did they let it happen? Surely the AFL can recognise that a deferred wages payment is really just an advance against future salary caps?

Why do I even ask? Once they let Sydney pick up Franklin on a contract where they were going to pay half his salary after he should have retired, the other clubs weren’t going to miss out.

We are probably lucky that Rance retired early. Otherwise Lynch and Dusty May have left us in a similar position. Even then, it’s is one thing to get into this position because of Franklin or Dusty, quite another to get into it because of Mayne, Wells, Treloar, Reid, Stevenson and Phillips. That is serious next level incompetence.
Could be that the AFL quietly warned Colonwood that they were running into a log jam of back ended contracts n they needed to urgently dump some contracts to avoid breaching in 2021. There's always a hundred permutations of what might possibly happen around the cap n list managers are usually smart enough to finesse things very carefully.
Perhaps Figgy n Eddie were stamping the feet n demanding they somehow keep everything they had n weren't sharing with anyone until such time as the *smile* went splatter.
 
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TOT70

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Could be that the AFL quietly warned Colonwood that they were running into a log jam of back ended contracts n they needed to urgently dump some contracts to avoid breaching in 2021. There's always a hundred permutations of what might possibly happen around the cap n list managers are usually smart enough to finesse things very carefully.
Perhaps Figgy n Eddie were stamping the feet n demanding they somehow keep everything they had n weren't sharing with anyone until such time as the *smile* went splatter.
Yeah, I can see that. Eddie and Buckley obviously run the place and everyone else just does as they are told. Always a recipe for disaster.

They ended up in a similar place to Essendon when they suddenly had to cut Blumfield, Heffernan and Caracella loose. Interesting that Caracella was the only one of the trio to continue to play well. Blumfield sooked it up and Heffernan was very ordinary in a weaker team.

Sadly for Treloar, he is going to have to work hard to get into the right headspace for next season.
 
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King Kong

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Its clear that Lollingwood went "All In" on a Premiership after our success in 17. They then doubled down after just missing in 18. They loaded up with talent, back ended contracts and then pushed back their salary cap problems thinking that all would be forgiven if they could jag a Premiership in 19 or 20. What happened this week is the equivalent of going bust.

We have stuffed them, along with GWS and Adelaide. They are another club that just couldn't accept that we were better than them. Geelong will be the next one added to this list.

It makes up for that day they stole Raines and Cloke and sent us into a spiral of debt that we barely survived.

This week was a good week.
 
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antman

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Not sure, ant.

Dunkley was pretty keen to get out. Sounds like the Hadfields and McCoys at the Dogs.

True, wonder what the backstory of that was... I just assumed the Dons were just throwing stupid money at him
 

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True, wonder what the backstory of that was... I just assumed the Dons were just throwing stupid money at him
Well that would be pretty poor on Dunkley's part, having years to run on a contract.

From what I've read he was unhappy with the culture and looking for more opportunity to play midfield. Still stuck in the culture and now with less opportunity a/c Treloar coming in.

Might be a good pickup for Tigers next year.
 
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Looks like the kid that always lagged on his mates at school.
He just can't shut his mouth.
Collingwood pissed him off because they have someone booked in for next October.
 

antman

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Well that would be pretty poor on Dunkley's part, having years to run on a contract.

From what I've read he was unhappy with the culture and looking for more opportunity to play midfield. Still stuck in the cunlture and now with less opprtunity a/c Treloar coming in.

Might be a good pickup for Tigers next year.

Didn't he train with us for a period before eventually getting drafted by the Dawgs? Have a vague memory of this
 
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The Bulldogs will be a serious threat next year, now that they’ve got a better list than us.
 
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Heard an interview he did with SEN this afternoon. Dunno what it is with that kid but every second word was "love". The only way someone can love as many people and things and situations and hypothetical as Treloar is if someone bathes in MDMA every morning.
 
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What puzzles me with collingwood with this mess they got themselves in , they went after Lynch as well
 
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I hope Treloar comes second in the Brownlow behind Dusty next year.
 
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His personal life is the clubs business when its such a big decision with potentially big implications on his performance. He is on $900,000 a year, his not working in a warehouse somewhere. And this isn't he and his wife moving to Geelong together.

Sure his decisions are his business (no matter how at odds with his personal wellbeing they seem) but the club can surely decide whether they are willing to accept the risks associated with that decision. When he got his back ended contract this arrangement was not part of the discussion.

Do you think if this was known at the beginning he would have had the same contract?

I'm trying to think of one but I can't ever remember a contract being influenced by personal relationships of any kind to be honest.

Just as well for us because if someone sat in a Punt Road office and said "I dunno about this long term deal for Dustin, he's pretty close to his old man who is stuck in New Zealand, might not play his best footy because of that," then we might be a bit less happy right now.

This whole argument is cart before horse stuff to me though. It is pure speculation as to what his footy will look like until it happens.

I think it is a very slippery slope to start to use an employee's family life to make predictions about their capacity to do their job.
 
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MD Jazz

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I'm trying to think of one but I can't ever remember a contract being influenced by personal relationships of any kind to be honest.

Just as well for us because if someone sat in a Punt Road office and said "I dunno about this long term deal for Dustin, he's pretty close to his old man who is stuck in New Zealand, might not play his best footy because of that," then we might be a bit less happy right now.

This whole argument is cart before horse stuff to me though. It is pure speculation as to what his footy will look like until it happens.

I think it is a very slippery slope to start to use an employee's family life to make predictions about their capacity to do their job.

It's all about risk TBR. There appears to have been a lot of elements to it not just his family life which seems to have taken all the focus. The Pies have handled it poorly but it may be the best decision for the club.

I think it is a little nieve to think all sorts of factors aren't considered with contracts, including someone's personal circumstances. They weighed it all up and decided to move him on.
 
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We have stuffed them, along with GWS and Adelaide. They are another club that just couldn't accept that we were better than them. Geelong will be the next one added to this list.
They beat us in 2018 didn't they?
 
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