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The Blair "Which?" Project

Re: The Blair Hartley Project

He could be the defender they've said they're in the market for.
 
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Disco08 said:
He could be the defender they've said they're in the market for.

He is a Tiger supporter to! I thought it was Thompson though that we were rumoured to be after
 
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Whispers on 3AW has stated Tippet will be going to the Suns you would think for pick 4. Will make things interesting.
 
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Disco08 said:
On that rate your list thingy on the AFL site, 70% of NM voters want Hansen traded. If he's that far out of favour maybe there's a chance of trading one of our non-untouchables for him.
Been fairly dissapointing, however his the type that may just be worth a Punt at the right price for the CHB possie, reckon a new club may jus see him prosper....again price is the key
 
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Yeah mate. Really disappointing considering the talent he showed as a kid. Don't think playing 2nd fiddle to Petrie's really done him any favours though. He can still take a contested grab though and reckon he'll do plenty of that playing CHB for his beloved Tiges. ;D
 
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Disco08 said:
He can still take a contested grab though and reckon he'll do plenty of that playing CHB for his beloved Tiges. ;D

He's a strong mark but his decision making is questionable, I'd say next year is do or die time especially given the rapid rate of development of his many of his peers. Could be worth a second rounder but that's about it, both Hansen and Gumbleton have been monumental disappointments IMO.
 
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bullus_hit said:
He's a strong mark but his decision making is questionable, I'd say next year is do or die time especially given the rapid rate of development of his many of his peers. Could be worth a second rounder but that's about it, both Hansen and Gumbleton have been monumental disappointments IMO.
Especially when you think how much better they were then the other KPP in that draft who have turned out bloody good like Jack,Reid, Brown
 
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Surely.

bullus_hit said:
He's a strong mark but his decision making is questionable, I'd say next year is do or die time especially given the rapid rate of development of his many of his peers. Could be worth a second rounder but that's about it, both Hansen and Gumbleton have been monumental disappointments IMO.

Yeah I wouldn't even pay that. Player and a 3rd rounder at most.
 
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CC TIGER said:
Especially when you think how much better they were then the other KPP in that draft who have turned out bloody good like Jack,Reid, Brown

Three All-Australians already (assuming Reid gets the nod) and two A-grade ruckmen in Goldstein and Leuenburger, throw in Tippett who looks like commanding pick 4 in this years draft and it starts to look ugly from a drafting perspective. Both Hansen and Gumbleton would struggle to make the top 30 if the draft was redone tomorrow.
 
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Barnzy said:
Surely we've targeted someone else other than Maric?
Fair chance Barnzy, but they are not going to broadcast who they are after.

I have confidence in Hartley and the recruiters. Still another 2-3 weeks until all the trade gossip really kicks in.!!
 
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GoodOne said:
Yes I said you could argue that any young player who has not reached their potential could be potentially a very good player and reach those heady stats on occassion. History is littered with examples of one game wonders. I don't class one 30+ possession game in 60 odd (against Richmond at that) as indicative of the player's consistent ability. I also don't consider a 6 goal haul against Gold Coast to be an indication of his ability to kick bags of goals. As for being Pick 10, so what? Lounder was Pick 1, Tambling was Pick 4, JON was Pick 8, again there are many many examples of players picked high who didn't make it to any great level.

Sure we could but based on our selection choices of the last couple of years or so I'd say it's probably unlikely that we will pick a huge did or an average plodder. I don't think personally that Dangerfield has performed at Pick #14 quality at this stage of his career. As I said that's the risk, will he take his game to the next level from here?

And 2007 is a long time in footy. We now know alot more about Dangerfield than we did in 2007. Other than that agree with you totally on your last paragraph.

That's a fair call. I'm not keen to pay overs for him. As i said, comes down to what we think is available at 14 and what Dangerfield offers. Odds are Adelaide will ask for overs and we walk away. It's going to be a risk on any player whether they take their game to the next level whether they are in the system or a draftee. Also, as i said my usual philosophy would be to draft a midfield and trade for other needs such as talls. Midfielders seem the more obvious who will be good at a young age. Talls not so much. Only time i'd go away from this is for a bargain.

In regards to Hansen, looked good last year and was marking everything that came his way. Shoulder injury this year and his confidence is totally shot to bits. Currently worth a 2nd or 3rd rounder. North would want a 1st at least. Doubt a deal would get done. North will hope he comes good rather than cut their losses for a 3rd rounder.
 
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Not sure they'd want a 1st rounder Tigs. Coming up for his 6th year and well out of favour and underperformed. Draft position and potential are pretty much forgotten.
 
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Disco08 said:
Not sure they'd want a 1st rounder Tigs. Coming up for his 6th year and well out of favour and underperformed. Draft position and potential are pretty much forgotten.

Wait, you are the Disco08 of Tambling & Hislop fame aren’t you?
 
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SCOOP said:
Wait, you are the Disco08 of Tambling & Hislop fame aren’t you?

:hihi 5 years is plenty, especially when there's been no obvious improvement over the last year or two. Tambling was looking pretty good after 4 and Hislop never got a clear run in 5 years. My point is actualy well made by the fact we were prepared to give him that long.
 
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Disco08 said:
Not sure they'd want a 1st rounder Tigs. Coming up for his 6th year and well out of favour and underperformed. Draft position and potential are pretty much forgotten.

I said what they would want not what they would get. Think they would keep him unless uncontracted and asked to leave. He would be worth a lot more to them than he is on the open market. He was very good last year and stuffed his shoulder up this year. He's out of favour with who exactly? Supporters or coach? He played 17 games this year. Missed against us due to injury which covers 1 of the missed games, missed 2 games against in round 13/14 with concussion and round 7 back injury. Round 20 he was omitted for 1 game. They obviously rate him. Then again they rate Robbie Tarrant who IMO is a dud.
 
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tigs2010 said:
I said what they would want not what they would get.

I know. I said that might not want a 1st rounder for the reasons I gave. They might understand that and be prepared to make a player/player trade a la the Everitt/Veszpremi trade.

Out of favour with the fans. I know that's not a great indication but if the fans are sick of him perhaps the coaches are too.
 
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Disco08 said:
I know. I said that might not want a 1st rounder for the reasons I gave. They might understand that and be prepared to make a player/player trade a la the Everitt/Veszpremi trade.

Out of favour with the fans. I know that's not a great indication but if the fans are sick of him perhaps the coaches are too.

Personally can't see them giving him up easily. He's a bit soft but he's talented and can see why he would have gone high in the draft. Reckon they will give him next year to see if 2010 was a fluke or his shoulder affected him. Then again they could trade him like we did Tambling. Id be all for it. Reckon he can play. Needs to be settled in a position and not a swingman.

Ill throw another name in there. Callum Bartlett?