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The Blair "Which?" Project

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shawry said:
We need more midfielders and lots of them. Dont think we have enough of them. Need some developing at Coburg, need some more to slot in and join the rotations. More on-ballers definitely required. Quality ones too.

That's what i'd be targeting in the draft.
 
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tigs2010 said:
That's what i'd be targeting in the draft.
Me too . Ruckman in trade week and midfielders in the draft , certainly with the early picks .

I can't see that Hansen is a priority need for us . If we can get 2 more quality midfielders and a decent ruckman then we have really started to address our needs . I have faith that we can develop a good spine with the KPD's and KPF's we have now .
 
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I hope that our list manager values the compo pick more highly than the experts on here. I'd only use it for a really good ruck or CHB, and not someone with the intensity of a Morton like Hansen.
 
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Tony Braxton-Hicks said:
I hope that our list manager values the compo pick more highly than the experts on here. I'd only use it for a really good ruck or CHB, and not someone with the intensity of a Morton like Hansen.

It isn't a get-out-of-jail free card from monopoly. Absolute best-case is that it is a pick 19 in a normal draft, more likely 23-25. A pick 24 is a pick 24 no matter how you spin it.
 
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Extremely unlikely to be 24. More than likely close to or in the 30's.
 
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Leysy Days said:
Extremely unlikely to be 24. More than likely close to or in the 30's.

All the more reason why we should have jumped right in last year, pick 27 could have netted Lycett, Harper or even Parker.
 
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Leysy Days said:
Extremely unlikely to be 24. More than likely close to or in the 30's.

been stated lessy that our compo pic likely to be between 19-23, by memory we were 2nd or perhaps 3rd off the rank for completing the tambling trade so as its an end of first round pic it will b around that range....
 
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AstuteTiger said:
been stated lessy that our compo pic likely to be between 19-23, by memory we were 2nd or perhaps 3rd off the rank for completing the tambling trade so as its an end of first round pic it will b around that range....
The problem is that from 2012 on there will also be compo picks from free agency around and who knows how many and where they may be in the Draft order .
 
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Could go as high as 27 to 29 in next years draft pending on GC,Port & Bris.All in the range for a PP next year.
 
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bullus_hit said:
All the more reason why we should have jumped right in last year, pick 27 could have netted Lycett, Harper or even Parker.

Nah, compromised drafts, bacth of youngsters not in the draft at all and many taken by GC and GWS this year, hold onto it. Leave your options open. If a gun young player falls through somewhere you have the option of trading the pick.
 
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CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
Could go as high as 27 to 29 in next years draft pending on GC,Port & Bris.All in the range for a PP next year.

Do they still have the priority pick?
 
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GoodOne said:
Nah, compromised drafts, bacth of youngsters not in the draft at all and many taken by GC and GWS this year, hold onto it. Leave your options open. If a gun young player falls through somewhere you have the option of trading the pick.

Not suggesting this year but people are overlooking the effect of free agency, there could potentially be a dozen compo picks floating in the system.
 
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bullus_hit said:
Not suggesting this year but people are overlooking the effect of free agency, there could potentially be a dozen compo picks floating in the system.

But they will have a 5 year expiry date on them so not all clubs will use them next year, plenty will remain banked.

18 clubs mean 19 is the earliest our pick can be.
3 clubs have compo picks this year - so call that average in any year
=21 picks.

Then any club that activates a round 1 or mid-round 1 pick will jump in (lets say 2 clubs)
= 23 picks
Then any club that activates an end-of-round-1 pick that finish BELOW us on the ladder. (lets say 3 clubs)
= 26 picks.

So out pick in that scenario would be 27. So I guessed 23-25. Others 27. 30 would be the high side. Pick a number in the mid-20s and you'll be in ballpark. Either way it is a far less pick than many people are saying. A lot of "don't trade our compo pick" posters seem to think that is the key to heaven. It is effectively a mid second-round pick in the old days.
 
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linuscambridge said:
Do they still have the priority pick?
Yep.What really stinks is the GC next year and more than likely GWS the year later once again can load up on high draft picks under the PP rule.Eventually they could afford to offload some of their quality kids to get drfat picks in future years.In other words the AFL have set these clubs up for the next 10 yrs at least,While our club and others have to do it the hard way.What a joke this is becoming.
 
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Lennox Street said:
But they will have a 5 year expiry date on them so not all clubs will use them next year, plenty will remain banked.

18 clubs mean 19 is the earliest our pick can be.
3 clubs have compo picks this year - so call that average in any year
=21 picks.

Then any club that activates a round 1 or mid-round 1 pick will jump in (lets say 2 clubs)
= 23 picks
Then any club that activates an end-of-round-1 pick that finish BELOW us on the ladder. (lets say 3 clubs)
= 26 picks.

So out pick in that scenario would be 27. So I guessed 23-25. Others 27. 30 would be the high side. Pick a number in the mid-20s and you'll be in ballpark. Either way it is a far less pick than many people are saying. A lot of "don't trade our compo pick" posters seem to think that is the key to heaven. It is effectively a mid second-round pick in the old days.
Our priority pick stays tied to Adelaide I think. Hence it will be their ladder position that determines where the pick lands. Won't be hard hoping they lose next year
 
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tigs2010 said:
I nailed Conca last year well before the draft. But no, i would have no idea if it's credible or not. Going to try find out the club.
thats a rather personal admission...
 
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Lennox Street said:
But they will have a 5 year expiry date on them so not all clubs will use them next year, plenty will remain banked.
That banking is going to interesting because every year there are probably going to be new compo picks from free agency . Noone really knows how many players will leave on free agency nor do we know whether they will bank them or not so we just don't know what the effect may be on the draft .
Its all very well to bank them but what happens if you decide to activate at the start of say 2012 for that year's draft because the draft is meant to be so strong and then 10 free agency deals are done and many of those clubs use them as well in 2012 .
Its a lottery but its a lottery we are going to have to get used to .
 
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tigs2010 said:
u think im joking ;)

haha damn should read stuff out loud before sending.
couldn't help myself !!hehe ;D
 
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Mr Magic said:
Our priority pick stays tied to Adelaide I think. Hence it will be their ladder position that determines where the pick lands. Won't be hard hoping they lose next year

I don't think that is right. It's a pick at the end of the first round. So if the last pick of the first round is pick 19 then our pick is #20 - it has nothing to do with where the Crows or us finish on the ladder.