Cholly has plenty of serious everything, it's simply about getting him into the games n then staying there. Unfortunately that's yet to happen.
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The depth dilemma
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Big question is do you pick the team to win another flag whilst the window is wide open or do you keep trying to pick & develop players that aren't quite ready yet with an eye on the future but could then becoming good long term players?
Personally I'd take option A every day of the week. This team has a real shot at greatness. The window won't last forever but right now we need to strike whilst the iron is red hot.
If that means we lose a young player or two due to lack of opportunity so be it but Premierships are bloody hard to win & we've got the proven team to do it.
Focus should be all on Cup number 14. Pick the best team.
Personally I'd take option A every day of the week. This team has a real shot at greatness. The window won't last forever but right now we need to strike whilst the iron is red hot.
If that means we lose a young player or two due to lack of opportunity so be it but Premierships are bloody hard to win & we've got the proven team to do it.
Focus should be all on Cup number 14. Pick the best team.
this is a good thread and a serious problem. One thing we do need to do is stop trading away players for a packet of skittles. Butler for example should have been traded for around pick 25-30. That way, if we do lose our fringe players, we can go back to the draft to replenish the squad. We are in a good draft position this year, which is brilliant. But we need to do this every year if we are to continue our run of success. While chasing a flag is the number 1 priority, we do not wanna be like Geelong this year by throwing our eggs in one basket.
Good post, option A for me too.
Some of our depth in Ellis, Butler, Higgins and Markov have left, so if Injuries happen, which is a given, some of the young cubs will get an opportunity.
We have been unbelievable.
We have kept all players that we needed to keep us challenging and got rid of players that can be replaced overnight.
Outstanding list management.
We have lost only Ellis who was a regular best 22 player, all the rest would still struggle to get a game.
I still can't believe we wasted pick 17 on Higgins.
That was a shocking selection.
Yes completely forgot about him.
It's a lot of rucks to carry on a list considering tota llist sizes are being reduced. I think there is a good chance we may end up trading one or two off at seasons end, particularly considering our hand in the upcoming draft.
a few people keep saying this, but if no one is willing to trade those picks for him what do we do?
you have to go for the premiership, then 4 in a row next year.
but hopefully at the same time we can give some younger guys some game time- CCJ, RCD and Ross are probably 3 prime examples of our future who need to play. Hopefully Miller gets a chance too at some point. others like Dow, Ralphsmith and Martin probably wont be hurt by a year developing in the VFL with maybe a game or 2 at AFL level.
Keep them if possible. I don't believe Butler wanted leave and he wasn't on big coin.
History says injuries will come soon enough. There will be opportunities. Here's hoping that they can take them.
We've been saying this for a few years now ToO.
The way we are going now we're going to need more depth players to replace our existing depth players when they retire or go to play for another club at the end of their contract.
I want to see all the young blokes get a game in the main comp. But I don't want to stop winning premierships either.
We've been saying this for a few years now ToO.
The way we are going now we're going to need more depth players to replace our existing depth players when they retire or go to play for another club at the end of their contract.
I want to see all the young blokes get a game in the main comp. But I don't want to stop winning premierships either.
young blokes need to make the most of their opportunities when they arise, like Balta, Baker and Bolton have done.
I reckon Ross and CCJ are ready to take any opportunity.
Not sure about the others. I know RCD, Dow, Martin and Miller have been talked up by RFC. Scratch match form has supposed to have been very good, but I am still waiting to see some consistently good VFL performances from them. 2020 covid really impacted their development.
I have pretty much given up on Egg, Naish and Chol - they had chances but did not take them. All have attributes, but also some significant weaknesses. Hope they can improve but just not confident they will make it.
Please don't open that can of worms, @Brodders17. I'm still recovering from the last great Butler battle
For what it's worth, I would have kept Butler. I reckon the mistake was we undervalued him—both in the sense of his position on the list and, then, in the return we accepted for his departure.
I'd love Butler in our side right now at the expense of Jake Aarts.
Now I'm off to run and hide before this discussion goes nuclear again
Its all about flags winning them while you can.
But the key is to roll kids through whilst doing it especially as the champs age even if it means resting the champs for a few games over the course ie over in WA etc.
Kids get a real taste for it and the champs keep some miles in their legs for September.
What do you mean the return for him, he didnt play a senior game for 12w and wouldn’t have cracked our finals squad had we included another 5 , his form since mid year last year has been pretty flaky , was ordinary in the semi , and r1 and 2 not much betterPlease don't open that can of worms, @Brodders17. I'm still recovering from the last great Butler battle
For what it's worth, I would have kept Butler. I reckon the mistake was we undervalued him—both in the sense of his position on the list and, then, in the return we accepted for his departure.
I'd love Butler in our side right now at the expense of Jake Aarts.
Now I'm off to run and hide before this discussion goes nuclear again
His problem is mindset and I don't know how the club will be able to change that. should they manage it then we will have some player on our hands
