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THE GAME IS SO SOFT, WHO IS TO BLAME

On Grand Final day, last year I watch " Dimitiriouoiuouiuouuouoiu" sneaking around to each player in the background to shake their hands...what a bloody weed he is...not big enough to get up on the dais and present the medals as head of the "A...ll F...un L...ost"....

He doesnt of course because he well knows the reception he'd get.......what a leader he is....

Absolute joke...

I rang 3AW yesterday arfternoon and chatted to the guys, and suggested that in a GF there is no way they'd call half the stuff they do in the real game, and as for the double goal....well Buckley agreed and said the 50m penalties are too severe.....

Where's the consultation? >:(
 
I turned on the radio at 3Qtr time and heard we were 1 point up, i then turned it off. The way the game is played today it really just does not interest me anymore. If that was 1995 and we were one point up every radio in the house would have been on. I also liked the way we used to get high lights from each game on a saturday night but now its all TV rights this and TV rights that. The game has changed in so many different ways it just does not interest me in hte slightest. I shall wait for the game to return to what it was one day when demetrio and anderson are gone but......they will probably change another 20 rules and stuff up everything completely before they retire. Well i guess in my book they already have /end rant
 
Wallace was interesting on this after the game. Said RFC voted against the slinging rule because it was too open to umpire interpretation. Said he'd had talks with the umpiring department on it's interpretation since it came in, but would have to go back and discuss it again. Closest he could come to criticising the decision on the Jackson tackle and free.
 
Azza said:
Wallace was interesting on this after the game. Said RFC voted against the slinging rule because it was too open to umpire interpretation. Said he'd had talks with the umpiring department on it's interpretation since it came in, but would have to go back and discuss it again. Closest he could come to criticising the decision on the Jackson tackle and free.
The AFL in miking up the maggots and inventing five hundred new rules to pretty up the game have created an egotistical psychomonster.
More and more of the game is being taken up by these rainbow coloured primadonnas to the detriment of the game.
Players nowadays
Can't bump.
Can't touch a back.
Can't knock an arm.
Can't commit to laying a tackle.
Can't argue.
Can't take any time to use their possession from a FREE kick or mark to set up play.
Definately can't tell a maggot he's a flogwit.
About the only thing they allow nowadays is for half a dozen players to hover on the player trying to get a loose ground ball then plough him into the ground.
Maggots nowadays can't shut up, they give umpiring instructions, coach, commentate and barrack all at the same time.
 
One of the commentator summed it up perfectly in the Carlton Lions game last night by saying. "I don't have as much of a problem with the umpires as I do the rule makers, the umpires are only doing what their told to do" and that is pretty right.

However I think that half the rule changes result from poor umpire interpretations in the first place.

Remember not that long ago forwards being mauled as the ball come into the forward line and never a free kick paid, just ask Richo. Guys like Silvagni would struggle in the modern game as under the current interpretations he would have been penalised nearly every time the ball came forward for in the back, over the shoulder or chopping the arms.
 
gustiger12 said:
However I think that half the rule changes result from poor umpire interpretations in the first place.

Gustiger, you are TOTALLY SPOT ON, and that sentence sums up 90% of the gripes we are having with our game today!

The hands in the back rule was put in place to take away the interpretation problem that umpires struggled with. The issue was where a player with his back to an opponent is pushed out and whether the ball was within a certain distance etc etc, so they make the rule more black and white!

Suddenly umpires are paying it when a player has taken the correct position only to have an opponent back into him. The player in the correct position instinctively puts a hand out, no push, just holds ground and yet he's pinged! Yet Buddy Franklin can push players over before the ball is even within the TV frame and not get penalised! He often gets pinged, but for some reason only half the time despite how often he does it.

The rule for not riding a player into the ground is there for exactly that reason - so players don't get ridden into the ground and injured! Now however, everything is paid, even when the player with the ball throws himself forward to milk a free kick! Where are the umpires that will say, "well that's not against the spirit of the game, so i won't pay it"! Yet Fev's tackle on Richo when Waite ran on to goal from the square - Fev grabs Richo, makes no attempt to turn him over and drives him face and shoulders into the ground and rides him down, landing flat on his back - no free kick! Late Thursfield makes a tackle, and lands next to his opponent doin geverything to not land on his back. Free kick, and 50m penalty for just asking why - goal from the square!

This new 50m penalty rule is going to effect the results of a lot of games this year! It wasn't just us that copped some incredibly soft decisions. Barry Hall copped one last night that wa as weak as anything i've ever seen. I'm no Hall fan, but he cops it as bad as Richo does from the umpiring fraternity!

The arm chopping rule should be in place. I think it's a good rule, but it's another rule made to look bad when umpires start penalising defenders who punch the ball and might take an arm at the same time. Umpires are too stupid to realise the rule is in place to get rid of the deliberate chop of an arm, not incidental contact which is bound to happen.

If its against the spirit of allowing a player the reasonable right to contest the ball ,or if it's truly dangerous, you blow the whistle. If not you let play go on! How hard is that?
 
Streak said:
There was an academic interviewed on Uni radio (WA) a few weeks ago who thinks you have a point there General. To be more precise, this guy is doing a study looking at the impact of single parent families (typically mother raising children) on what extracurricular activities the kids get involved in and how that might change the social dynamic in Australia. One thing they were looking at was sport, and they focussed on the emergence of soccer. Apparently there is quite a correlation between the emergence of soccer in Australia and the rise in single parent families.

So you really have to wonder what the AFL is trying to achieve. On the one hand, they are trying to get kids involved in the game by hiding its physical nature, but on the other hand they are alientating the lifeblood of the game at all levels, the spectators. Without spectators, all our kids will be playing soccer (or rugby I guess)

I am all for getting thuggery out of the game. It shouldn't be tolerated. But on the other hand, the game is hard and physical. To try to change that is to try to change the game.

Rugby League have tried to get thuggery out of their game. But apart from introducing stiffer penalties for high tackles, spear tackles and the like, they recognise the game is what it is. I personally don't like the game, and I live in WA which is essentially a non-league market, but I don't seem to hear the criticism that their game is going soft.

Maybe the AFL should target some advertising at 15 to 16 yr olds to get them involved in the game.

If they can't say to mummy by that age:
"Look mum, i love you to bits, but make sure my steak is ready when i get back from a hard session of AUSSIE RULES TRAINING"!

then i doubt they'd make much of an AFL footballer anyway!
 
maybe the AFL should put a FREE DVD in next weeks Herald Sun so all footy fans know these new soft rules
.chop arms
.hands in back
.50m penalty sling


its a joke
 
frickenel said:
Gustiger, you are TOTALLY SPOT ON, and that sentence sums up 90% of the gripes we are having with our game today!

The hands in the back rule was put in place to take away the interpretation problem that umpires struggled with. The issue was where a player with his back to an opponent is pushed out and whether the ball was within a certain distance etc etc, so they make the rule more black and white!
...

Too many current umpires don't have a feel for the game, so they're actually trying to keep the need for umpire discretion to a minimum by instructing them to adjudicate to the letter of the law.
 
Bunnerz said:
Who do we blame,
1. Umpires
2. Demetiou
3. Rules Commitee

3 examples of the first half at Richmond v Geelong below, and its only half time......

a. Chapman marks and dives forward, umpires says King pushed him forward 50m penalty (Goal)
b. King does a nice chest bump to S. (sookyboy) Johnson, he slings his head back, gets a free kick (goal)
c. Selwood marks feels pressure coming, the tiger player hardly touches him but NO 50m penalty (goal)

its a bloody joke, no wonder i watch more soccer and cricket now

(tiger member)

Bunnerz
Have not read the replies to your thread,but agree totally.My answer:

well today it is expected that we drive our kids to school,pick them up (because,of course there is a ped on every corner),if the teacher dares discipline our child(who never does anything wrong),we rock up to the principle and moan and groan about the detention?Responsiblity for one's actions,are you kidding?Today it all about being politically correct.Have your kid climb a tree,and see how long it takes a OHAS inspector to rock up.Why do think it is all about handball and uncontested marks?Slater and Gordon are there in waiting for the class action against the AFL for the bruising on players..........................
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Too many current umpires don't have a feel for the game, so they're actually trying to keep the need for umpire discretion to a minimum by instructing them to adjudicate to the letter of the law.

Believe it or not, but the umpires are also under a huge amount of pressure from the umpiring department not to make mistakes. If you're terrified of making mistakes, you're more likely to rule on everything you see rather than make decisions on 'the spirit of the game'.
 
This slinging a player after he gets rid of the ball is a joke. If the tacklee gets a hand pass out in the middle of the tackle, it's a 50m penanlty becasue the momentum of the tackle will drive the tacklee into the ground. Not only is it a free kick but 50m penalty !!! This is exactly what happened when Joel Corey got a 50m and goaled in the second half. It's ridiculous and totally against the spirit of the game, and the stupid robotic umpires will pay it becasue it's "in the DVD" - lol.
 
gold1 said:
Have not read the replies to your thread,but agree totally.My answer:

well today it is expected that we drive our kids to school,pick them up (because,of course there is a ped on every corner),if the teacher dares discipline our child(who never does anything wrong),we rock up to the principle and moan and groan about the detention?Responsiblity for one's actions,are you kidding?Today it all about being politically correct.Have your kid climb a tree,and see how long it takes a OHAS inspector to rock up.Why do think it is all about handball and uncontested marks?Slater and Gordon are there in waiting for the class action against the AFL for the bruising on players..........................

Gotta agree. The world is so politically correct and soft these days it's a joke. No one takes responsibility for their own actions. It's always someone elses fault.

AFL is following the same path. Very soft, very few real contests. I can understand anyone losing interest.
 
Harry said:
This slinging a player after he gets rid of the ball is a joke. If the tacklee gets a hand pass out in the middle of the tackle, it's a 50m penanlty becasue the momentum of the tackle will drive the tacklee into the ground. Not only is it a free kick but 50m penalty !!! This is exactly what happened when Joel Corey got a 50m and goaled in the second half. It's ridiculous and totally against the spirit of the game, and the stupid robotic umpires will pay it becasue it's "in the DVD" - lol.

Well said H - agree totally...probably the worst rule to ever come into the game...and it's the same rule that's hurt us 2 weeks in a row...
 
1. chapman marks 55m out, feels contact coming (he dives forward) ing only just touches him as he was running full pelt (50m) Goal. umpire got it wrong so says foxtel, k rock



2. selwood, same thing (Goal) umpires got it wrong



3. Jake King bumps S.Johnson in the chest, Johnson throws his head back, umpire falls for it FREE and Goal----- all commentators say umpire made an error



4. Maguane hits the ball over the fence, I thought that rule was gone.........GET RID OF It (goal)



5. joel corey, gets a tackle, releases the ball mid way through tackle, jackson doesnt know as he is tackling from behind. But no, its a free and a 50m penalty (goal)----crap rule







That game was controlled totally by the umpires and i cant believe how much say they have on the game. An umpire is going to get hit soon by a player and its going to be a real shame...



It looked to me that Jackson and Maguane had that thought going through there mind at one stage and players had to drag them away.



bunnerz 26 played 200 games of amateur footy
 
i rang up sen this morning and asked for one of those dvd's
and kb said he is getting 50 delivered to the station this week
 
The rot began with Demetriou, Anderson & Rules committee persisted with this hands in the back rule !

They don't care about public, club & player opinion.

its a pity we have to wait till the Grand Final to actually watch a game that is umpired properly. Its a pity they don't umpire like that every game!