The Gold Coast Rebuild

tigertim

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Reading that the Suns are after Roughy and Burgoyne for next year. Read elsewherevtheyd be interested in getting Betts too.

Maybe they’re going down the path of being the veterans destination club rather than a club of youth.

Maybe they could be the Over 30s club like the nightclubs of the 70s and 80s.
 
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Leysy Days

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These old threads are amusing. Look at everyone rushing to agree with bully that Gold Coast would be ahead of us by 2018. You can't get more wrong than that.
Not everyone mate ha!

Remember the old days posting how hard it is for these clubs to build and maintain a list, whilst being blasted about how they were going to have a monopoly on the premiership race for many years to come.

Posted it was hype of Y2K bug proportions.

They are both further away now than when they started. GWS will stay competitive in the short term but because of the constant loss of players due to location, culture etc and having to overpay players they will never build the depth required to win a flag in the foreseeable future.
 
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aoc1974

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Maybe they could be the Over 30s club like the nightclubs of the 70s and 80s.
Bloody hell. .... just had a flashback trying to sneak into High Society on top of Doncaster Shoppingtown.... the clientele was, to my eye, sophisticated and glamorous.
Has me wondering what that looks like 35 years on? (Not unlike myself I imagine!:confused: )
 
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zippadeee

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How long do you pour money into a endless pit??
The AFL cant for the next 25 years top them up.
As soon as this administration goes so will GC.
 

spook

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Not everyone mate ha!

Remember the old days posting how hard it is for these clubs to build and maintain a list, whilst being blasted about how they were going to have a monopoly on the premiership race for many years to come.

Posted it was hype of Y2K bug proportions.

They are both further away now than when they started. GWS will stay competitive in the short term but because of the constant loss of players due to location, culture etc and having to overpay players they will never build the depth required to win a flag in the foreseeable future.
You were all over it, Bryan.
 

Baloo

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These old threads are amusing. Look at everyone rushing to agree with bully that Gold Coast would be ahead of us by 2018. You can't get more wrong than that.
Dig out the Bernie thread. It's a great way to spend an afternoon laughing
 
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antman

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These old threads are amusing. Look at everyone rushing to agree with bully that Gold Coast would be ahead of us by 2018. You can't get more wrong than that.
Yep. People also said that GWS would be a flag dynasty from 2017 on. I always said they don't have the culture. But yeah, Suns. They'll limp on for however much longer the AFL want to prop them up. Maybe Gil's successor will bite the bullet and close up the shop.
 

antman

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Dig out the Bernie thread. It's a great way to spend an afternoon laughing
Remember that satirical creative fiction one about Balmey and the assistant coaches treating Dimma as a sort of special needs employee? A tour de force.
 
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tigerlove

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Yep. People also said that GWS would be a flag dynasty from 2017 on. I always said they don't have the culture. But yeah, Suns. They'll limp on for however much longer the AFL want to prop them up. Maybe Gil's successor will bite the bullet and close up the shop.
GWS definite issues culturally or at least when the going gets tough but gee they've been hit hard by injuries last couple of years. On their list this week; Cameron, Coniglio, de Boer, Deledio, Finlayson, Himmelberg, Hopper, Kelly, Langdon, Lloyd, PAtton, Ward
 
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antman

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GWS definite issues culturally or at least when the going gets tough but gee they've been hit hard by injuries last couple of years. On their list this week; Cameron, Coniglio, de Boer, Deledio, Finlayson, Himmelberg, Hopper, Kelly, Langdon, Lloyd, PAtton, Ward
This is true.
 

Ridley

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Seems highly likely that Polo Boy will award the first two picks in the draft to his mate Evans. Will also likely allow a higher football department spend.
I hope they do award them the first 2 picks. It means that Melbourne miss out on Noah Anderson who by all reports is clearly the 2nd best player in the draft.

Ha ha.
 
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TigerPort

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How long do you pour money into a endless pit??
The AFL cant for the next 25 years top them up.
As soon as this administration goes so will GC.
The AFL funded GWS and The Suns from the increased revenue from the last broadcasting rights as the number of games went up 1. So the money they are using is indeed an endless pit as long as the broadcast rights $ stay high and increase.

The plan is 30 years so not going anywhere in that time frame
 
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TigerPort

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Reading that the Suns are after Roughy and Burgoyne for next year. Read elsewherevtheyd be interested in getting Betts too.

Maybe they’re going down the path of being the veterans destination club rather than a club of youth.

Maybe they could be the Over 30s club like the nightclubs of the 70s and 80s.
It makes more sense than giving them extra draft picks. Get 4 or 5 highly performed veterans, not necessarily to play, but to be mentors for the younger players. Have them there for long contracts by increasing the Suns off field spending cap. Attempt to build a culture from proven veterans.

Hodge going to Brisbane is a template but doesn't need to actually play.
 

spook

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Leysy is right that GWS has a retention problem, but they don't have a culture problem, IMO. All you hear is that it feels lile a genuine footy club, and the fact they still have foundation guns like Greene, Cogs, Davis and Ward speaks volumes.

They have a ruck problem and a coach problem. No system. Fix those, keep Kelly and Cogs and they can win a flag. But Leon ain't the man. Wouldn't be surprised if they have a chat to B. Scott.
 

tigerdell

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GWS have figjamism. And its not good enough when the going is uphill.
 
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tigerdell

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I have a theory about fixing gold coast.
Same as others have said - increase the soft cap. Improve the club/footy dept and players will stay and pkay better.
First step is lure recent past champions but not to play.
Assistant coaches and mentors.
Steve Johnson. Roughhead. Bartel. Nick Riewoldt.
Double the footy dept cap to get the best.
Young players want to learn from legends of the game.


As an example Lynch when he arrived at the tigers said how excited he was to learn from JR.
Who was his mentor at the Suns - martin pike?
It would help massively with player retention

Stewie Dew might be a great coach but will not be the only factor keeping the kids. I also think he has an outdated gameplan.

Then get a good footy administrator eg Tom Harley.
Get a new list manager - ffs Craig Cameron signed off on CEllis.
They have the right CEO in Mark Evans.
(Balme - Benny Gale)

Sure give them pick 2, but players will come and go.
Gold Coast need more footy cap spending and better footy people involved
 
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caesar

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I want GC to get pick 1 & 2 just so Melbourne is stooged and miss out on exactly the player they need in Anderson.
 
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tigerman

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How good would the Suns be if Abblet, Prestia, Caddy, O'Meara, Lynch, a fit Bennell, May and Dickson were still playing for them?
 

Harry

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Gold coast are going just fine. Lynch Prestia and Caddy are proof of that.
 
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