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The I ❤️ Collingwood thread.

TigerMasochist

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[QUOTE="willo, post: 2421610, member: 3671
What happened to the 2009 fire aftermath Commission ?
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Same as happens to every intellectual expert scientific commission the politicians have ever held. There'll be a year or two of posturing n looking serious, millions of taxpayer dollars pissed down the drain. Thousands of pages of findings n reports that will get buried in the cupboard until such time as the mandatory 20 years has passed n they can be released from the Govt archives for further expert n introspected analysis in hindsight.
All so the politicians can look n sound important n interactive while nothing gets done while waiting for the next unforeseen disaster to come flying around the corner at 300kph.
 
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frickenel

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Buckley giving the PM some advice on Twitter


“Leadership is hard. Put your hand up and accept what could have been done better, by you and by others,” Buckley tweeted.

“Then accept the vitriol, the hurt and the pain. Listen, understand and empathise. Then take action. Firstly for today and then for tomorrow.”
The problem with this of course is that we don't have a nationwide fire policy.

The state Govt. owns that, including the lack of fuel reduction which was a key recommendation in the reports following 2009, along with expanding the DFA by at least 40%, but instead we gutted it.

I'm not sure how Scott Morrison ended up in the firing line aside from not predicting the fires a few months in advance.

It seems to have started with Australia's efforts regarding Climate Change but that's the biggest herring being pushed by the left.

The Paris Agreement puts not constraints on China and India. They come under the agreement in 2030, but have a catch all excuse even then which is that if they believe taking action will cause poverty, then they don't have to.

So in effect, as the west starts relying on the more expensive renewable power sources, business if forced to do more manufacturing from China and India and a few other countries where coal fired electricity is in greater use. We lose jobs, they gain them. We are cleaner, but considering these other countries have no environmental policy to speak of, the net result is more pollution than before we started. It's like the UN with their IPCC think the west lives in a self contained bubble.

In reality, we are making ourselves poorer, making the Chinese richer then watching them come out here and drive our house prices through the roof, forcing many Australians out of the market.

It's probably summed up best by Dr Ottmar Endenhofer (IPCC Co-Chair of working group 3 ) in an interview on Nov 13 , 2010 when he said the following:-

We (UN-IPCC) redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Thie has nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore"!
 
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TigerForce

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Serious flog be Figgy. Obviously doesn't have much to keep himself amused over summer. Not busy winning a flag for Colonwood at the moment so he's decided to help ScoMo run the country part time.
Anyone on here type this? :mhihi
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eZyT

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I'm not sure how Scott Morrison ended up in the firing line aside from not predicting the fires a few months in advance.
Its extremely simple, even ignoring climate change as an issue.

1. he refused to meet with a delegation of fire chiefs who wanted to brief him about what is now happening.

2. He went on a secret holiday to hawaii to drink mojitos, while his country burnt.
 
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Dont Argue

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Its extremely simple, even ignoring climate change as an issue.

1. he refused to meet with a delegation of fire chiefs who wanted to brief him about what is now happening.

2. He went on a secret holiday to hawaii to drink mojitos, while his country burnt.
Or maybe it’s because the Greens need to blame someone for their culpability.
Blaming the P.M is an awesome strategy to confuse the ill informed and redirect what the real causes are. Meanwhile the fuel will continue to sit on the forest floor waiting for the next arsonist to light a match.
 
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DavidSSS

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Or maybe it’s because the Greens need to blame someone for their culpability.
Blaming the P.M is an awesome strategy to confuse the ill informed and redirect what the real causes are. Meanwhile the fuel will continue to sit on the forest floor waiting for the next arsonist to light a match.
Aah, you must be right, after all it is the party with a few cross-benchers which controls the place, not those in government with executive authority and control of the purse strings. How could I have been misled to think that those in power are responsible for what the government does?

DS
 
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eZyT

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Or maybe it’s because the Greens need to blame someone for their culpability.
Blaming the P.M is an awesome strategy to confuse the ill informed and redirect what the real causes are. Meanwhile the fuel will continue to sit on the forest floor waiting for the next arsonist to light a match.
Um, nuh.

Next time you feel inclined to listen to Alan Jones, remind yourself of this,

(Unprintable due to defamation laws)
 

Dont Argue

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Aah, you must be right, after all it is the party with a few cross-benchers which controls the place, not those in government with executive authority and control of the purse strings. How could I have been misled to think that those in power are responsible for what the government does?

DS
You might also like to check out the composition of local council.
After all they are the ones who issue the permits for clearing off land, roadside grazing of animals on their land and collection of firewood from roadside and national parks.
But yes, blame Morrison if it makes you feel better
 

Dont Argue

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Um, nuh.

Next time you feel inclined to listen to Alan Jones, remind yourself of this,

(Unprintable due to defamation laws)
Well the good news is that climate change made it rain today to assist dulling the fires.
Thank you Greta
 

TigerForce

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Digression in this thread is still OK as long as it's related: Collingwood ---> bushfires ---> smoke ----> choking.
 
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TigerMasochist

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Its extremely simple, even ignoring climate change as an issue.

1. he refused to meet with a delegation of fire chiefs who wanted to brief him about what is now happening.

2. He went on a secret holiday to hawaii to drink mojitos, while his country burnt.
1. Perhaps the various fire chiefs should have gone to their local state governments as they are the ones in charge of fire services in their various locations. Numpty federal prime ministers have to ask the state premiers for permission to offer any assistance.
2. ScoMo wasn't the only one quietly having a Xmas holiday with the family. Dan the Man was doing exactly the same thing. He's the one with actual authority concerning at least the Vic bush fires, ScoMo has none.
See on tonight's news reports that Dan n his little Noddy dog helpers are basically of the opinion that we need to suck it up n accept the fact that these massive bush fires are gunna be a regular event for eternity, because it's to politically hard to do anything serious about reducing the risk, so we'll just blame the *smile* on climate change n everyone can risk their arses during or dig deep to put a band aid on to cover the mess after.
 
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jb03

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Buckley's tweet/quote seemed like just a load of gibberish to me, trying too hard to sound impressive
 
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lamb22

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Or maybe it’s because the Greens need to blame someone for their culpability.
Blaming the P.M is an awesome strategy to confuse the ill informed and redirect what the real causes are. Meanwhile the fuel will continue to sit on the forest floor waiting for the next arsonist to light a match.





 
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lamb22

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Dont Argue, the funniest part of your post is when you talk about the "ill informed" with no self awareness or sense of irony at all. I am still chuckling some 20 minutes later. Thanks for the laugh! :rotfl2
 
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jb03

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In fairness, isn't the government more likely to take advice from the current fire chiefs rather than the former?
 

Dont Argue

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Dont Argue, the funniest part of your post is when you talk about the "ill informed" with no self awareness or sense of irony at all. I am still chuckling some 20 minutes later. Thanks for the laugh! :rotfl2
i stopped reading your significant contribution to this argument after the heading in your number 2 post 2019.
“Scott Morrison’s undignified dash to Hawaii.”
Did he fly naked?

But just to clarify your position, you believe climate change alone has caused bushfires and that Scott Morrison, who has been in power for all of 2 years, is responsible? So please give us your solution.
Let me guess. Sack Morrison and cancel all parliamentary holidays.
My argument is about land management to assist and combat bush fires Australia has been having since we settled.
 
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Mac

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Yeah, right on!

Collingwood DO suck!!
 
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TigerPort

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Given the crap being unloaded on him Morrison could have stayed in Hawaii and he would not be copping any higher level of critism
Spot on, let’s gets this thread back on topic, Copyingwood are sh!t.
Not sure about wanting Collingwood to be *smile*. Much more fun when they think they have a chance and they get beaten just when they think they have it.

Carlton on the other hand........
 
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