The Official Trade Thread

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[davidrodan]

Yes the trades are unlikely but you have the right thought momentai
lots of draft picks
To bad we have little of value to trade
Greg will find a way

 

[Tango]

here goes then

If you want a first rounder you need to offer one of the following:

1. Richo, Brown or Cogs - not gunna happen
2. Use your pick 8 + Tuck to get a better first rounder - is it worth it? not sure maybe

Dont see much value after this in our mature range players so i cant see this happening so we are stuck with pick 8

The best scenario is at second round stage;

Tivendale, Humm, Kellaway all worthless at trade table

Roden, Tuck, Knoble, Kraka - can be offered for a second rounder or offered with a second round pick with an upgrade of picks (ie) our player & a high 2nd round or 3rd round for a low 2nd round pick and a late pick

This is possible, IMO we should try and load up with good 2nd round picks and try and pick up a bargain - its risky as you may just get average kids but its better than carrying our current average players

 

[Brettstigers]

There's more of a chance a meteor hitting the Earth, than the above happening.

Yes but it would be a gold plated meteor wouldn't it.  Trading our fringe players for picks.  Ideal

 

[momentai]

here goes then

If you want a first rounder you need to offer one of the following:

1. Richo, Brown or Cogs - not gunna happen
2. Use your pick 8 + Tuck to get a better first rounder - is it worth it? not sure maybe

Dont see much value after this in our mature range players so i cant see this happening so we are stuck with pick 8

The best scenario is at second round stage;

Tivendale, Humm, Kellaway all worthless at trade table

Roden, Tuck, Knoble, Kraka - can be offered for a second rounder or offered with a second round pick with an upgrade of picks (ie) our player & a high 2nd round or 3rd round for a low 2nd round pick and a late pick

This is possible, IMO we should try and load up with good 2nd round picks and try and pick up a bargain - its risky as you may just get average kids but its better than carrying our current average players

I am certainly not convinced that trading into the first round is beyond us or that we would need to use players like Richo, Cogs or Browny to get there.

Admitedly this is supposed to be a very strong draft and clubs will want into it more than may otherwise be the case but it is worth remembering that Thompson, Hay,Richards and Jolly have all attracted first rd picks in recent years. The key is that if clubs think they are close to success they will trade for whatever they believe they need rather than take their chances in the draft.

This is why I believe that it is quite possible that 'creative' packages which might include Gas and Knoble, could attract high picks if they are aimed in the right direction.

 

[TOT70]

I have thought all year that Knobel is worth a pick around 20-30. If Boganwood take Everitt and Carlton stitch up Gardner, Sydney might consider their first pick for him. I think he is the most likely first round trade.

Hartigan or Tivendale might be capable of upgrading another pick, say 8 and Harts for 2 or 26 and Tiv for 20 or so should be reasonable.

Krakouer has similar value to Knobel, somewhere around 25-35.

I'd try to do them all but then again, what I think is meaningless.

I don't think we have much else to offer anyone. Tuck? Maybe but a gun KPP would need to to be the trade, maybe Dowler.

 

[momentai]

Tuck is an interesting one. Wth the injuries Dowler has had the Hawks may be interested.

 

[johnson2richo2003]

Krak>>>Freo
Polak>>>Hawks
Tuck>>>Hawks
Knobel>>>Syd

Picks>>>6,13ish >>>>Rich
Picks>>>35ish>>>>Haw
Pick>>>> 25 & 27ish>>>Freo

Washup
Freo
Gain:Krak & pick 25 & Pick 27ish
Loseolak & Pick 13ish

Hawks:
Gain:Tuck,Polak & pick 35ish
Loseick 6 & 25.

Rich:
Gainicks,6 & 13ish
Lose:Tuck,Krak,Knobel & pick27

IMO Trades in part can be about perception.If you can make the other side think they have a good deal your halfway there.
Freo would take whats on offer for Polak
The Hawks mayso although not have a pick to #35 may be difficult to convince despite the gains in Polak & Tuck but not impossible considering their heavy influx of youth over the past 2yrs.

Sure we lose someone like a Tuck and considering how our midfeild is lacking depth its somewhat of a gamble however IMO having 3 picks in the top 15 certainly outweighs the lose of Tuck.

 

[momentai]

Like it and it seems fair but where does pick 35 come from?
6, 8 and 13.  ooh

Ahh Syd.

 

[Tango]

if that could be sold Capt it would be great,
not sure the hawks would go for a slow mid when they have mitchell & hodge (they need speed)
not sure they would offer up Dowler either?

we can only hope >

 

[No 4]

Krak>>>Freo
Polak>>>Hawks
Tuck>>>Hawks
Knobel>>>Syd

Picks>>>6,13ish >>>>Rich
Picks>>>35ish>>>>Haw
Pick>>>> 25 & 27ish>>>Freo

Washup
Freo
Gain:Krak & pick 25 & Pick 27ish
Loseolak & Pick 13ish

Hawks:
Gain:Tuck,Polak & pick 35ish
Loseick 6 & 25.

Rich:
Gainicks,6 & 13ish
Lose:Tuck,Krak,Knobel & pick27

IMO Trades in part can be about perception.If you can make the other side think they have a good deal your halfway there.
Freo would take whats on offer for Polak
The Hawks mayso although not have a pick to #35 may be difficult to convince despite the gains in Polak & Tuck but not impossible considering their heavy influx of youth over the past 2yrs.

Sure we lose someone like a Tuck and considering how our midfeild is lacking depth its somewhat of a gamble however IMO having 3 picks in the top 15 certainly outweighs the lose of Tuck.

waste of time Captain. We need pick 3 not 6 to secure our future CHB. In the process we have lost a ruckman, a hard working midfielder and above average forward specialist. This will put us back another three years. by then the Bowdens, Brown, Richo & johnno are finished.

 

[momentai]

None of the above will finish top 8 in the Jack this year?? Have to admit that D/p6 and 13 would go along way to making me ;D

 

[johnson2richo2003]

Krak>>>Freo
Polak>>>Hawks
Tuck>>>Hawks
Knobel>>>Syd

Picks>>>6,13ish >>>>Rich
Picks>>>35ish>>>>Haw
Pick>>>> 25 & 27ish>>>Freo

Washup
Freo
Gain:Krak & pick 25 & Pick 27ish
Loseolak & Pick 13ish

Hawks:
Gain:Tuck,Polak & pick 35ish
Loseick 6 & 25.

Rich:
Gainicks,6 & 13ish
Lose:Tuck,Krak,Knobel & pick27

IMO Trades in part can be about perception.If you can make the other side think they have a good deal your halfway there.
Freo would take whats on offer for Polak
The Hawks mayso although not have a pick to #35 may be difficult to convince despite the gains in Polak & Tuck but not impossible considering their heavy influx of youth over the past 2yrs.

Sure we lose someone like a Tuck and considering how our midfeild is lacking depth its somewhat of a gamble however IMO having 3 picks in the top 15 certainly outweighs the lose of Tuck.

waste of time Captain. We need pick 3 not 6 to secure our future CHB. In the process we have lost a ruckman, a hard working midfielder and above average forward specialist. This will put us back another three years. by then the Bowdens, Brown, Richo & johnno are finished.

Use Pick 6 on a mid
Pick 8 hmmmmmmmm tough one.Perhaps another Mid.
Pick 13ish on Mckenzie[KPP]

 

[momentai]

Agree with much that has been said on the CHB thread and partly because of that I have also moved slightly away from the idea that we should seek to take Leuenberger with our first draft pick.

First to the trade period.

1 Gaspar and d/p 42 and 58 to West Coast for d/p 15, which hopefully we are able to use to get Mckenzie.

If the Eagles lose the grand final again because of Hall and O'loughlan, I think they will be looking for a third tall back to help out Glass and Hunter, especially in finals. After coming back from injury Gas was playing pretty well in a defence which was backing up a rather leaky midfield. Gasa has had a great career at Richmond and may want to finish his career there, especially if Travis stays on their list.

With their inside knowledge of the hidden talent on offer in W A they may also be very pleased with the opportunity to take our picks 42 and 58?

2 Kellaway or Krakeour, and Tivendale to the Kangaroos for d/p 21 and 37.North like both Krak and Tiv and I guess might also be interested in Kellaway who is very much an 'Archer' type. I would prefer to keep Krak but would let him go if it proved necessary to get this deal done.

3 Knoble and d/p 26 to St kilda for d/p 9. The Saints need an experienced ruckman and Knoble offers more than the other possibilities. The clock is ticking as far as the Saints are concerned and this deal may appeal.

4 Hartigen or d/p 37 to Brisbane for Cameron Wood. With Scott and others on their way out at Brisbane, Hartigen may interest them, especially if we could persuade Wood, a tiger supporter, to tell Brisbane he is leaving come what may.IMO Hartigen is going to be very good but JON, Polo, Raines and White and possibly even Howat, have gone past him, not to mention Hyde and Newman. If Brisbane refuse Harts and then d/p 37, then maybe we could persuade Wood to nominate a large one year salary and enter the pre season?  :hihi If so we snap him up having come to an understanding!!!

We get d/p 8,9,15,21 and 37 plus Wood and lose Gas, Kell or Krak, Knoble, Tivendale and possibly Hartigen. Easy really. ;D

As for 3 a new coach at Stkilda should be looking for a ruck option especially given the uncertainties about Kosies future. If the Saints aren't interested Carlton may be ?

8 Thorp
9 Leuenberger
15 Mckenzie
21 Houlie?
37Djekera?

 

[Brettstigers]

For me the issue is simple. I would like to see any fringe player or a player who isn't part of our future traded for draft choices. That does not include players who would destroy our structure if we lost them. Hall and Knobel for example aren't great trades because we would have to replace them immediately. (Remembering that trades consumated are rare)

The only three that leap to mind for me are Tivva, Krak and Hartigan. These three may have some trade value and some interest. Draft picks won't be high though. If we got a second round pick for any of them then we would have done well. I wouldn't lose any sleep if these three got one more year either by the way.

I must admit to waiting for TW and Miller to make some hard choices and really going for it. To date they have been trying to do the right thing and keep a balance between experience and youth. I would love to see a decision which basically says - stuff it, the young ones coming through are steady enough lets get rid of the Tivva's of the world, get what we can and then just make do till the kids (eg. Meyer, Oakly/Nichols/Casserley) are good enough and big enough. Its risky and will probably send the graph heading backwards but I would prefer to increase the risk and therefore the potential reward.

 

[D85]

i doubt we'd trade tuck, and krak. we dont have many players in that early 20's group...

 

[Broady]

What about Jackson for trade? he seens to have lost hes way????

 

[Phar Ace]

What about Jackson for trade? he seens to have lost hes way????

Only cos of recurring injury though - be patient!