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The Pattison - Hille comparison.
- Thread starter pahoffm
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No offence Jayfox, but did you really need to quote that entire post, considering it was directly above yours? ???
Wouldn't this also mean that Wallace et al would need to give the guy a chance to just take the ruck? I mean, I'm all for experimentation, but he doesn't appear to be the answer as a chf, so wouldn't it be better to just let the guy develop in the ruck, where we all expect him to be anyway?
My purpose for mentioning cox was that, there's diamonds in the rough everywhere (Thursfield for example) and kids get missed out. Pattison might not have been favoured by all and sundry to be a 1st round (or where ever), but that doesn't mean he's finished. Give him a chance, if he turns out as a decent ruckman who can play 150 games for us, we've got it right.
Not all our picks from 2004 are going to make it, statistics show that, but with 1 season under their belt, most of them just aren't ready yet. If we were this impatient with all our picks, and got rid of em after a couple of seasons, where would Andrew Raines be right now?
Phantom said:
Wouldn't this also mean that Wallace et al would need to give the guy a chance to just take the ruck? I mean, I'm all for experimentation, but he doesn't appear to be the answer as a chf, so wouldn't it be better to just let the guy develop in the ruck, where we all expect him to be anyway?
My purpose for mentioning cox was that, there's diamonds in the rough everywhere (Thursfield for example) and kids get missed out. Pattison might not have been favoured by all and sundry to be a 1st round (or where ever), but that doesn't mean he's finished. Give him a chance, if he turns out as a decent ruckman who can play 150 games for us, we've got it right.
Not all our picks from 2004 are going to make it, statistics show that, but with 1 season under their belt, most of them just aren't ready yet. If we were this impatient with all our picks, and got rid of em after a couple of seasons, where would Andrew Raines be right now?
Essendons drafting has been terrible. No wonder they finished below Richmond last year.
As for Hille I reckon he has a better player than Fraser out of that years draft and Fraser was taking at no 1. Sheedy has inferred this as well.
As for Pattison. Appears slow, unable to read the play and would have trouble gettinga kick in a street fight. However Iwish him all the best and hope he turns out to a champion.
As for Hille I reckon he has a better player than Fraser out of that years draft and Fraser was taking at no 1. Sheedy has inferred this as well.
As for Pattison. Appears slow, unable to read the play and would have trouble gettinga kick in a street fight. However Iwish him all the best and hope he turns out to a champion.
Why does everybody expect instant results from the young fellas these days? Just because there are guys like Lids who can come right into AFL and perform doesn't mean every kid drafted can have an immediate impact.
Where some of you see a dud I see a potential 200 gamer and a go to guy of the future. I like Phantom's Hille comparison but I like the Benny Gale comparisons even more. At this stage of Patto's career I have seen enough glimpses to suggest he can and should eventually become a consistent and valuable core player of the team.
He has great hands and will present all day. The kid has a future.
Where some of you see a dud I see a potential 200 gamer and a go to guy of the future. I like Phantom's Hille comparison but I like the Benny Gale comparisons even more. At this stage of Patto's career I have seen enough glimpses to suggest he can and should eventually become a consistent and valuable core player of the team.
He has great hands and will present all day. The kid has a future.
Pattison needs to be taught how to play CHF before he is ever played there again.
I hope we dont pay for Brian Taylors services
I hope we dont pay for Brian Taylors services
thomas the tiger said:
I have been a big rap for Patto (see, another spelling variant....) because of his enthusiasm last year, but I really had hoped to see some improvement over the pre-season in his ability to get where he is supposed to be on the field and all those other "above the shoulders" skills.
I haven't seen too much of him this year, but what I have seen doesn't fill me with confidence that we have a player capable of a lot.
Time will tell I suppose, but I think we should be recruiting on the premise that he may not be the answer......
taraba said:
Which is why I believe that Laycock and Cartledge are better comparisons.
Both at a similar draft pick and the two of them into their 4th year.
Sheedy tends to be very patient with his big men. So if we were to be as patient with Patto, it would be fairer to stack his record up after his 3rd year at RFC to what the current stats are for Laycock and Cartledge.
I am on record as saying he wont make a kp player for us, but I think he could end up being a very handy ruckman who rests forward now and then and takes a few pack marks or who breaks open a pack to cause a spillage for the crumbers we haven't had for too many years.
when comparing patto to other players dont just look at their stats you have to look at their deficiencies as well. so when comparing pattison always remember pace and kicking skills. iask how many players go on to have successful afl careers who cant kick and cant run and have little agility.
the claw said:
That's not fair.
I remember stephen Kernahan in SA before he came to Carlton. He was fantastic.
Tall, fast, marked well overhead & could kick the ball a mile.
Both Dad & I hoped desperately that he'd play for the Tigers.
Unfortunately, it wasn't to be.
Gary Buckenara, we thought the same.
Ah well!