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The standard of umpiring??

graystar1

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Is it just me, or do the umpires pick on one team during a game and give them everything, and not much to the other. Take our game on Saturday for instance. The Saints received 21 frees, of which 20 were either midfield or forward 50. The Tigers received 14 frees, of which 10 were midfield or forward 50. The Saints got 5 inside the 50, and what did we get...1!!! I get sick of seeing Richo earning frees and not getting them.

More glaring was the Cats v. Lions.

Cats....26 frees, 21 middle or in the 50.
Lions...15 frees, 14 middle or in the 50.

I have not included OOB on the full in these figures.

Just seems to me, watching other games apart from the Tiges, that the umps seem to favour one team over the other quite often. Also, it is not often the number of frees awarded to one side, but often the ones the others don't get. Another example was the two holding the ball frees paid to the Saints and none to us, even though some of our tackles were identical to one's the Saints laid.

As that well known Professor Julius Somner Miller used to say..."Why is it so?"

Have no wish to start yet another umpiring bashing thread, but can't help wondering.
 
True, I was flabbergasted Saturday with some decisions that went against us.

Tragic....

On the replay Fraser even handballed a goal, that St Nick never got near
 
I couldn't agree more GS. I find that it is difficult to enjoy non-Tiger games like I used to because of bewildering umpiring decisions.

It seems to me that more often than not it is the home or higher placed team that gets the benefit of the umpiring.

Why?

I reckon that it is unconscious bias. Umpiring is so much about interpretation, and it is therefore necessarily 'subjective'. Anything that is subjective is open to bias.

And it isn't an umpire bash. If we (or the AFL) don't recognise that there is a problem, then no steps will be taken to fix things. As you point out, it is also much more than the frees given. However the umpires review process is biassed towards the frees given.

Someone external to the AFL needs to review the umpiring from top to bottom, including their review process!
 
Considering we had 3 of the more experienced umpires, I thought the standard was quite poor. Not a good audition for the finals coming up.
 
graystar1 said:
Have no wish to start yet another umpiring bashing thread, but can't help wondering.

NO, NO! Let's umpire bash!

Jools said:
Considering we had 3 of the more experienced umpires, I thought the standard was quite poor. Not a good audition for the finals coming up.

That's because one of them was that prat Goldspanker. His last hurrah was to umpire us...probably on request. I'm not paranoid or anything, but he's got it in for us! His retirement is wlecome news. Let's all sing:
"Ding, dong the witch is dead..."!!!!
 
Its fine to manhandle richo on every forward 50 thrust, yet you sure as hell cant stand with your back to the ball on montagna without giving away a free!

The interpretations are just half assed. If you are going to get tough on physical contact or contact without intention of getting the ball, then why the hell it isnt cut and dry in every instance is beyond me. Its not as if there are not enough umps to spot the action.
 
Umpires blow the whistle and get involved way too much. My pet hate re AFL compared to SANFL. If only they stay relatively unnoticed all would be good. Really annoys me the way they are jsut constantly looking for and wanting ot make a decision that they end up making decisions for soft htings that are close.

They should ay the obvious ones and leave the soft ones alone and then footy would be a much better spectacle.
 
shawry said:
Umpires blow the whistle and get involved way too much. My pet hate re AFL compared to SANFL. If only they stay relatively unnoticed all would be good. Really annoys me the way they are jsut constantly looking for and wanting ot make a decision that they end up making decisions for soft htings that are close.

They should ay the obvious ones and leave the soft ones alone and then footy would be a much better spectacle.

I agree wholeheartedly. Surely the job of the umpire is to adjudicate and make decisions on whether or not a free is to be paid. I also hate the instructions they are giving to players, particularly at throw ins from the boundary. eg., "No holding," etc., etc. I did not think it was their position to be giving gratuitous advice on what to do or not do.
 
Maggots need to stop prancing around screaming instructions over and over, interjecting witty banter and just simply umpire.
The bastards are there purely to ensure the game flows along cleanly according to the rules not provide side show entertainment.
 
Mr Pumblechook said:
It seems to me that more often than not it is the home or higher placed team that gets the benefit of the umpiring.

Couldn't agree more.