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The team VS. Sydney

Broadsword95 said:
Can anyone clarify the final team then? I'm a bit confused. The AFL site has Tivendale, Polak and Morton all in, with presumably White, Hyde and one other missing out...

Please explain. ???
teams do this every week broady,it is annoying but it doesn`t mean that 3 are neccessarily going to be dropped.
it`s just that they can name a 25 man squad up until the game day(someone correct me if i`m wrong).

so it may mean that there will be 1,2,3 or zero changes.
 
mopsy fraser said:
teams do this every week broady,it is annoying but it doesn`t mean that 3 are neccessarily going to be dropped.
it`s just that they can name a 25 man squad up until the game day(someone correct me if i`m wrong).

so it may mean that there will be 1,2,3 or zero changes. 

Pretty sure the final 22 has to be named two days before the match. On a Thursday night, the only teams which name a 7-man bench are those playing on Sunday. The final 22's for the Sunday games are usually in the paper on Saturday morning, so presumably are finalised on Friday night.

Of course this is really only cosmetic as changes can and do occur, with one (or more) of the 22 being replaced by one of the three emergencies. Clubs must submit a team sheet 45 minutes before the start of the match, listing their four interchange players. On rare occasions, a player has become ill/injured after the 45-minute cutoff; I think the club may need the permission of the opposition to make a change after this point.

Years ago, clubs would occasionally spring a surprise by including a player not listed as an emergency, and wear a fine from the VFL/AFL. From memory we did this for Terry Wallace's first Richmond game in 1987; Wallace kicked four goals from the centre, Richmond defeated Essendon, Sheedy was filthy, and we copped a $5000? fine. Can't remember the last time this happened and don't know what the penalty is now, but imagine it would be severely frowned upon by the AFL.
 
A team played a player who wasn't even an emergency as recent as in the last couple of rounds. Can't remember who though - the commentators mentioned it during the game as the player that came in played well.
 
Blueyboy74 said:
Cheap shot blx. Bowden in particular has been a great servant of our club. 2 B&Fs and AA's would attest. He earned his spot back with some dominant performances at the Burgers.

YAWN!!!

look I've always respected Bowdens acheivements but he's still too SLOW for the gameplan we're wanting to instill.

Our forward line defensive pressure is going to nose dive this weekend with bobblehead Pettifer and galapogos Bowden in there.

Just watch the Sydney defence run rings around these two.

We should be getting games into our future players not giving these spots to fuddy duddys on borrowed time?

Polak/Morton in for you guess.

i cant believe were going backwards at the selection table.
 
blx said:
i cant believe were going backwards at the selection table.

It's killing me as well, blx. Taking nothing away from Bowden and Pettifer's achievements over the years - they've both busted their arses for the club - but as soon as they were dropped, our whole mindset changed for the better.

Other clubs know what to expect from these blokes and they know how to exploit it - just as they've been doing for ten years. We've got a handful of young guys who could certainly do the equivalent of these two but who have a much bigger chance of being part of a successful Richmond team in the future.

I'm struggling with them being back - but if Tivendale joins them at any stage, God help us.
 
Dyer'ere said:
Ridley, you aint seen "nothing" till you put Polehack in the ruck. He'll redefine it if he hasn't already. But hey, fair enough, it's marginal ATM. The rule's pretty simple since the circle got smaller IMO - rucks now have to be physical.


And as for dropping Tuck, well, he's physically dominant, that can't be good. One's too many in that class. ;D


But there must be a reason he's named on the bench. He didn't get much game time last week - I thought he was being rested a bit. He flogged Corey but who did he move on to in the second half? Against Esserden he had Watson - massively strong over the ball - got 8 or so clearances. Did Tuck bugger up? ...

FWIW I'm fine with Tuck getting the flick in favour of 400k pa Joel. If anything Joel is stronger when he puts his mind to it (IF he can get to the contest) and he can use even if he has the odd glitch. But you wouldn't start that experiment against Sydney, would you?

Wild speculation:

The Sydney panel is all over Tuck's form. They know exactly who he's flogged this year (pretty much everybody). And they think he'll play. They're 80% certain of who he'll match up on (Kirk?). And they think the bench thing is a ruse. They've almost overruled the idea that he might get an odd matchup (O'Keefe?) because of it. Right now they think it's Tuck for Kirk. (And I think it's curtains for Kirk.)

Furthermore the Sydney scout has a mate at Richmond who assures him there's no change.

But Wallet has other ideas. Much as I bag other aspects of his game I think he's brilliant tactically and a master of stratagems. This might be one of them.

Suppose he wants to put some heat on Tuck's use. (Shane makes plenty of blues.) He still wouldn't drop him for Sydney. Suppose Terry is pissed off that Tuck couldn't beat a poor user like Watson when he was licensed to outplay him last week and he wants to put heat on him. He still wouldn't drop him for Sydney.

Never do one thing if you can do four as easily. Tuck is dropped for getting outpunched by an Esserden plodder, for not hurting Geelong after he'd disgraced Corey, for poor use and for matchup/tactical reasons.

What if Terry has a wild take on Sydney? That you can't beat them at the inside game so you let them have that one to themselves and heat their outside game? You need runners for that. Not insiders. At least not so many.

So TW with his many surprises, one- out: Tuck. He will have others because he thinks that he can pull off one of those tactical masterstrokes with flood/counter stuff like he did against Esserden in 2000 and Adelaide in 2006. (Small grounds, eh?)

This is a must win game for us. Wallace's future hangs on the result. He will surprise.


And after all that Tuck goes to Kirk. ;D

Tuck was murdered by Kirk & Wallace's future may well hang on the result Jack.