The youth policy in regard to this weeks team

[Djevv]

Polo, I spent a lot of time in my teenage years listening to the guy in the picture play guitar. Never heard anything quite as good before or since!

P.Bowden - played well for us last year
Pettifer - likewise
Krakouer - Can't see him coming good but lets say he starts getting a lot of the pill at Coburg. He knows he is on his last legs.
Knobel - Will he ever get on the field......but we NEED a backup ruckman.
Tivendale - skilled but mentally suspect. Goes missing when the going gets tough. Another on his last chance.
Kingsley - Deserves a run if his form warrants it.
Hyde - Is he AFL standard?
Hall - Is a klutz, but is tall, mobile and feisty. We don't have many of these.
Moore - young but, again is he AFL standard
Jackson - likewise


This is where the cull will come from this year, but we can't get rid of all of them. Terry has lit a fire under the lot of them to see which will come good. They need to be given a chance.

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

I'm concerned whether the team runs out with the 'playing for the jumper' policy. I hope Wallace hasn't pissed anyone of this week, and they all come out sooking again.

 

[Brettstigers]

Wallace said during the gaspar conference that, if 2 players are in equal form, and one is considerably younger than the other, the younger guy will get the spot.

Gaspar didn't like this, and retired. It seems consistent with what Gaspar said (Re: having every opportunity to play in the side) and with what wallace said. Gaspar is right, he wouldn't get every opportunity. If his form and say McGuane's form are on par, then McGuane would be selected over him. Wallace never said if McGuane had worse form than Gaspar that he'd get in the side. Whether you agree with the Match Committee's opinion about the form between the 2, that's really the part that's debatable.

Wallace again reiterated yesterday that the policy is limited to players who have the same level of form, and there is an age difference between the two.

If that is a youth policy, I'm all for it. Wallace has been consistent since the Gaspar conference saying that is what we are doing. The media have declared we have a youth policy.

I'm not going to debate the merits of who is and isn't in form, but if Wallace remains consistent to this "youth policy" as HE describes it, then you can't really complain. The players know what they have to do. It encourages the senior players to perform *better* than those who are younger, and it encourages the young guys to displace the older guys. Competition for spots IF this is the policy, is good.

Clearly, we've been doing the same thing at Richmond for quite a while now, and it hasn't been working. We are no closer to win a grand final at this point, than we were in 1990. Isn't it time that we try something different, and just move some of the average performing players on?

The Richmond Football Club is in the business to try win Premierships, not friends. Lets move any older guy who's spot can be filled by a younger player who can contribute the same level of performance ASAP.

I find this post particularly offensive. When did you think Gas was going to get another game this season (other than his "retirement" game?) after Wallace's fireside chat. Gaspar retired because it was his belief that other than his retirement game the only game he would get was if half the defence were unavailable from injury. You guys suck up the *smile* TW spin when it suits you and decry it any other time. When a man is so pissed off that he chooses to quit his career nd a club he has spent over a decade at its not because he's been dropped, its because he's been told he's a "depth" player only. I don't remember Gas quitting any other time in his career after being dropped. To imply that Gas would get a game if someone's form dipped and they were no longer equal (how many players precisely would have to experience a form "dip" you reckon by the way) is just complete BS and for the life of me I can't understand why you and that other feral on this subject TOO want to spout it. George Orwell remember him fellas, "some are more equal than others". In this case, way more equal.

What I find particularly amusing is we have no-one for FB who can play as tall as Gaspar due to pathetic recruiting so I find TW's form statement entirely consistent with Sunday's result. They are both absolute bollocks.

Oh and for the record, seeing you are choosing to justify your absurd opinion from a press conference statement - TW was never going to say, while in full damage control, "Gaspar chose to suddenly retire without even a send off because I decided to drop him for the year from Round Six on." Despite it being true. Good to see our ten year + players going out in style.

I don't disagree with Wallace's decision to play the kids, I just can't stand the self serving hypocrisy of those choosing to attack Gas over his decision to leave when he wants to, when its the only decision he actually has some control over. Show some respect.

 

[Tigers of Old]

I can't understand why you and that other feral on this subject TOO want to spout it.
Show some respect.

You're entitled to your opinion Brett.
I happen to agree with the coach and the administration of the Football club.
You obviously don't but no need to get abusive or you appear pretty feral yourself.

 

[Scoop]

Caro stated on the fact that *smile* lack of intensity during games was starting to become a problem and that probably sealed the deal. If you are trying to build a culture you cannot have one of your elder statesmen going at %75, that simple.

I am more behind the club then ever before.

 

[Razorgang]

Why dont we just cut the BS, I dont give a rats #### whether we play kids or otherwise, why cant we select a team on merit!!!

 

[The_General]

I find this post particularly offensive.

You guys suck up the *smile* TW spin when it suits you and decry it any other time. When a man is so pissed off that he chooses to quit his career nd a club he has spent over a decade at its not because he's been dropped, its because he's been told he's a "depth" player only. I don't remember Gas quitting any other time in his career after being dropped. To imply that Gas would get a game if someone's form dipped and they were no longer equal (how many players precisely would have to experience a form "dip" you reckon by the way) is just complete BS and for the life of me I can't understand why you and that other feral on this subject TOO want to spout it. George Orwell remember him fellas, "some are more equal than others". In this case, way more equal.

Where have I sucked up the *smile* TW spin and then decried it somewhere else?

Quitting is the easy option. It always is.

Go back, and read through all of the press conferences Wallace has had since Gaspar left. Point to me where he has said the "Richmond football club has a youth policy now". Read his comments through each one. You'll find that, they are very consistent in his explanation of what he claims he's trying to do.

I'd like you to take all the emotion out of whatever it is you're feeling, and re-read the post I made. Where, anywhere in that post, did I say it was wrong for Gaspar to quit? Where did I say everything was going to be equal for gaspar? I think if you bother to read it properly, you'll find I said that Gaspar would have to play better than someone younger than him to get a look at a spot. I also said that, I wasn't going to debate who it is keeping him out of the side, and whether they have better form than him, as this thread IS NOT ABOUT DARREN GASPAR.

Now take a minute and re-read those last 5 words in the paragraph above. I've taken the comments about what Wallace said in the press conference where Gaspar retired, and in yesterday's press conference, and said that if he remains consistent to that approach, I'll support him. I have no problem with the club playing someone younger, if the older player they have replaced is in equal form. That is what this thread is discussing, and I think you'll find, that is the slant of my post, which you have quoted. We are clearly not going to win a premiership, with these older players.

Now, on to your post.

I find your response equally as offensive. I haven't had to resort to profanity. I've read your post, and comprehended the arguments you've tried to make, without going off half-cocked. I haven't attacked Gaspar in this thread about his decision. I think you'll find I said:

Gaspar is right, he wouldn't get every opportunity. If his form and say McGuane's form are on par, then McGuane would be selected over him.

I don't think he should have quit. You're right there. But I haven't "attacked" him as you so put it. And I'm pretty sure I haven't seen "Gas quitting any other time in his career after being dropped". If I had, I wouldn't be having this engrossing discussion with you know. It's truly an intellectual proposition you put forward Brett, cheers to you.

I appreciate the tone of your response, and suggest that maybe the pot is calling the "feral" kettle black here. I thank you for taking the time to respond to my "absurd opinion" and thank you for showing me the respect you demand I show to gaspar.

 

[Rosy]

Why dont we just cut the BS, I dont give a rats #### whether we play kids or otherwise, why cant we select a team on merit!!!

Spot on Razor :clap

 

[Bill James]

Caro stated on the fact that gaspar lack of intensity during games was starting to become a problem and that probably sealed the deal. If you are trying to build a culture you cannot have one of your elder statesmen going at %75, that simple.

I am more behind the club then ever before.

Agree on Gas, obvious that he was focussing only on his assignment and offering little or no assistance to others. in comparison watch McGaune closely always prepared to leave his man and help out.