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They love to hate us!!

graystar1

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Apr 28, 2004
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Once again the media have dined out on the Tigers. The reports in today's Sun are just so typical of the love\hate relationship they have with Richmond.

When we lose, they go drop dead bananas on how bad we are and how good the opposition were. Yes, other teams cop a bit when they lose, but it does seem never to the extent we cop it. So we lost by 18 points, and all around me, Tiger fans were leaving before the end, with loud mutterings of digust at the way we played, but that's Richmond for you. I know, same old, same old, but why oh why does the print media crucify us so badly??
 
graystar1 said:
When we lose, they go drop dead bananas on how bad we are and how good the opposition were.
Tell me gray one, did you not think we were TERRIBLE last night in our decision making, workrate & use of the footy? If we are that bad, it should be described as such. Why should it be sugar-coated?
 
They talk about respect at Richmond and every coach says it.....well that rubbish they dished up will receive no respect, the senior players offered nothing.
 
As Terry said the 18 point margin flattered us.  Our delivery was abyssmal.  We had forwards lairising and trying to take speckies over taller players, while we had two up spoiling each other Melbourne stayed down and cleared the ball.  Most of the game was a yawnfest to watch. Very defensive with our flooding and tagging. I can see how non-Richmond supporters wouldn't be impressed and really don't see how the media could say anything to flatter us other than when we played more positive footy in the last 1/4 we outscored them. Maybe they could also mention that a couple of our kids gave the more experienced players a bit of a lesson in how it should be done.
 
rosy23 said:
As Terry said the 18 point margin flattered us.  Our delivery was abyssmal.  We had forwards lairising and trying to take speckies over taller players, while we had two up spoiling each other Melbourne stayed down and cleared the ball.  Most of the game was a yawnfest to watch. Very defensive with our flooding and tagging. I can see how non-Richmond supporters wouldn't be impressed and really don't see how the media could say anything to flatter us other than when we played more positive footy in the last 1/4 we outscored them. Maybe they could also mention that a couple of our kids gave the more experienced players a bit of a lesson in how it should be done.

Yeah....the lady makes sense....again. I suppose I was expecting a "lashing" from the press, but it does seem to me we cop more than others when we lose. I also agree on how terrible we were. Lost counT of the turnovers, hitting Melbourne players on the chest in OUR forward line. Oh well, it seems nothing changes much at Tigerland. At least there is next week!!!
 
graystar1 said:
Yeah....the lady makes sense....again. I suppose I was expecting a "lashing" from the press, but it does seem to me we cop more than others when we lose.

I'm not really in a position to comment Gray. I don't read the articles when we lose. ;D
 
The media are a fickle bunch... so I have prepared an article for the media in general!

There is currently a lot of controversy about The Media's smears, and I know that any letter on the subject will almost certainly cause someone to encourage young people to break all the rules, cut themselves loose from their roots, and adopt a money-grubbing lifestyle. Still, this kind of thing makes me wonder whether we've ever moved past demonic lexiphanicism at all. First things first: The Media should clarify its point so people like you and me can tell what the heck it's talking about. Without clarification, The Media's prognoses sound lofty and include some emotionally charged words but don't really seem to make any sense. I was thinking about how it is cowardice on The Media's part to waffle on all the issues. And then it hit me.

If the human race is to survive on this planet, we will have to wake people out of their stupor and call on them to dispense justice. If The Media can one day make conditions far worse than could ever have been the case without The Media's biggety efforts, then the long descent into night is sure to follow. When The Media's cantankerous utterances are translated into plain, words-mean-things English, it appears to be saying that newspapers should report only on items it agrees with. For me, this closed-minded moonshine serves only to emphasize how as that last sentence suggests, I have a tendency to report the more sensational things that The Media is up to, the more shocking things, things like how it wants to mollycoddle grotesque, shabby marauders. And I realize the difficulty that the average person has in coming to grips with that, but the term "idiot savant" comes to mind when thinking of it. Admittedly, that term applies only halfway to it, which is why I aver that I've tried explaining to The Media's co-conspirators that The Media expresses an unpatriotic nostalgia for a uniform, unchallenging, homogeneous society that never really existed. Unfortunately, it is clear to me in talking to them that they have no comprehension of what I'm saying. I might as well be talking to creatures from Mars. In fact, I'd bet Martians would be more likely to discern that even when The Media isn't lying, it's using facts, emphasizing facts, bearing down on facts, sliding off facts, quietly ignoring facts, and, above all, interpreting facts in a way that will enable it to lead people towards iniquity and sin. However, when The Media says that the average working-class person can't see through its chicanery, that's just a load of spucatum tauri. The Media has written volumes about how a knowledge of correct diction, even if unused, evinces a superiority that covers cowardice or stupidity. Don't believe a word of it, though. The truth is that I do not propose a supernatural solution to the problems we're having with it. Instead, I propose a practical, realistic, down-to-earth approach that requires only that I place a high value on honor and self-respect. From this perspective, the time is always right to do what is right. That's why we must honestly explain a few facets of this confusing world around us. The first step in that process is to realize that its lackeys argue that anyone who dares to resolve our disputes without violence can expect to suffer hair loss and tooth decay as a result. These are the same raucous ogres who destroy our culture, our institutions, and our way of life. This is no coincidence; the next time The Media decides to portray lousy punks as sods, it should think to itself, cui bono? -- who benefits?

Should we blindly trust such unprofessional, choleric savages? When you get right down to it, The Media decries or dismisses capitalism, technology, industrialization, and systems of government borne of Enlightenment ideas about the dignity and freedom of human beings. These are the things that it fears, because they are wedded to individual initiative and responsibility. We must open minds instead of closing them. Only then can a society free of its ruthless scare tactics blossom forth from the roots of the past. And only then will people come to understand that to get even the simplest message into the consciousness of drugged-out maniacs, it has to be repeated at least 50 times. Now, I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you the following 50 times, but it makes a virtue of irremediable fault. If, after hearing facts like that, you still believe that people are pawns to be used and manipulated, then there is obviously no hope for you. Let me end this letter by pointing out that the battle to illustrate the virtues that The Media lacks -- courage, truthfulness, courtesy, honesty, diligence, chivalry, loyalty, and industry -- is now joined on many fronts. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter; and, we will not fail.
 
Laff said:
They talk about respect at Richmond and every coach says it.....well that rubbish they dished up will receive no respect, the senior players offered nothing.

Here hear Laff
Like wide eyed Japanese tourists in Hollywood, the senior also rans offered nothing.
I see posts that praise the efforts of Gaspar.
How can you build backlines around his type, that only get 5 possesions a game.
Time he was Capuanoed, as well as his mate Tivendale!!!
 
vintagetiges said:
The media are a fickle bunch... so I have prepared an article for the media in general!
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obviously no hope for you. Let me end this letter by pointing out that the battle to illustrate the virtues that The Media lacks -- courage, truthfulness, courtesy, honesty, diligence, chivalry, loyalty, and industry -- is now joined on many fronts. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter; and, we will not fail.

Crikey vt, you sound like the Unabomber! Well written though.

To maintain any sort of profile in football media these days, you need to go out on a limb and make bold and/or emotive statements. People want tabloid journalism rather than a plain description of the facts - circulation figures for the Herald-Sun in comparison with The Age are evidence of this.

Richmond sells papers, and we receive an enormous amount of press relative to our level of success. Whether we like it or not, many people see us as a basket case and keep their knives sharp for when we fail; only sustained success will change the situation. The fact that we hurt from criticism is a virtue.
 
diggler said:
Laff said:
They talk about respect at Richmond and every coach says it.....well that rubbish they dished up will receive no respect, the senior players offered nothing.

Here hear Laff
Like wide eyed Japanese tourists in Hollywood, the senior also rans offered nothing.
I see posts that praise the efforts of Gaspar.
How can you build backlines around his type, that only get 5 possesions a game.
Time he was Capuanoed, as well as his mate Tivendale!!!

You cant blame our loss last night on Gaspar & Tivendale dribbler. ::)
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
vintagetiges said:
The media are a fickle bunch... so I have prepared an article for the media in general!
...
obviously no hope for you. Let me end this letter by pointing out that the battle to illustrate the virtues that The Media lacks -- courage, truthfulness, courtesy, honesty, diligence, chivalry, loyalty, and industry -- is now joined on many fronts. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter; and, we will not fail.

Crikey vt, you sound like the Unabomber! Well written though.

To maintain any sort of profile in football media these days, you need to go out on a limb and make bold and/or emotive statements. People want tabloid journalism rather than a plain description of the facts - circulation figures for the Herald-Sun in comparison with The Age are evidence of this.

Richmond sells papers, and we receive an enormous amount of press relative to our level of success. Whether we like it or not, many people see us as a basket case and keep their knives sharp for when we fail; only sustained success will change the situation. The fact that we hurt from criticism is a virtue.

Bingo, the only problem being, that certain media personalities will take a dig at your regardless of success.

I agree, the type of coverage will always be relative to success.
 
Vintage Tiges....Now thats what I call a post....and then some...more like intellect express!
Crivens mate......Ill have to undertake the enrichment and activation of the entipities of my mind now(gurkle!)
As for the media and journos....I put em in the same brothel as car salesmen,real estate salesman and financial advisors,not to mention Bourke St graduates who have degrees and diplomas in knowing absolutely nothin about how the real world works...and get paid 200k a year for it.......and music critics who know nothin about music.....

Matter of fact....The world is full of proffessional people with diplomas.degrees,and batchelor of arts and farts who know absolutely nothing........ :P ::) ??? :help
Im on a mission to eradicate the world of em.....
 
Digglers Ghost said:
diggler said:
Laff said:
They talk about respect at Richmond and every coach says it.....well that rubbish they dished up will receive no respect, the senior players offered nothing.

Here hear Laff
Like wide eyed Japanese tourists in Hollywood, the senior also rans offered nothing.
I see posts that praise the efforts of Gaspar.
How can you build backlines around his type, that only get 5 possesions a game.
Time he was Capuanoed, as well as his mate Tivendale!!!

You cant blame our loss last night on Gaspar & Tivendale dribbler.  ::)

You can if you are Diggler (alter-ego Laff)
 
until we stand up as a team in these so-called big matches and beat a quality opposition on the big stage we deserve every little bit of crap we get thrown at us...

dont know about you guys but how many times over the years has this football team and some others let the club, the supporters down....not to mention themselves...

same old same old.

lets see how we come out in the next 4 weeks and perform as we all know its that time of the season where the walls come crashing down on our season...

but then again good ol GM reckons its a change of culture down at punt road now as compared to other seasons gone by..lets just wait and see greggy....personally there is still some of the old culture lingering i reckon, oh well we will all have to wait and see which richmond team turns up in the next 4 weeks...