Those bloody Irish are a bunch of sooks

[capitaltige]

I agree with your change of name concept ToO but the game still would need to make significant changes to make it more attractive to a wider international audience, one of the most obvious being the length of the game, it does not suit TV (like it or not tv is a huge player in any sport and will only get bigger) and also allows to many games to have blowouts in score which generally happen late in quarters and as a result a large number of games that are just not close enough which is what captures peoples attention.

One thing about the international rules is that is it constantly moving and generally entertaining with very few games ever being very lop sided as far as scoring goes.

 

[AZZORP]

The REAL and underlying problem is that the Irish can't accept that we are better at their game own than they are.

Forget all this stuff about the physicality etc. They are just surface deep issues being raised by the Irish in frustration at us beating them at their own game.

It's not their game. It's quite different. The physical aspect is a HUGE departure from their game.

Not denying that they were crude in some of their "physicality" but the fact remains that alot of the stuff we dished out last year here in Aust and this year over there would get our players many many weeks if done in an AFL game. It's not tough, its *smile* weak.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

It's funny how they only whinge when they lose. I was talking to an Irish bloke at work and he said that having a 'dig' is quite common in Gaelic club games and he was disgusted that when one of the Aussies had a crack at them they didn't 'dig' back, but sooked about it to the officials or after the game.

 

[Brettstigers]

For what it is worth I wrote to the GAA (and the AFL) re proposed rule changes. I'd say from the response I received that they are still pretty pissed off. If interested the letter & reply are below
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Hello Brett,,

My thanks for your comments in relation to the International Rules Series. The approach to the game from a number of the players involved was totally unacceptable. The President of the GAA has already made his opinions on this quite clear and it would seem unlikely that the Series has any immediate future.

I have forwarded a copy of your email to our President, Nickey Brennan.

Regards

Siobhan Brady

GAA Press Office
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I felt the television commentary of the game at Croke Park firmly demonstrated that the GAA and Ireland in general cannot accept a physical style game) and that AFL players are trained to win “physical” contests. The existing rules therefore need to be revised to reduce this conflict style level of contact. I am deliberately not trying to apportion blame – the cause of various outbursts in the first quarter of the Croke Park game is irrelevant in comparison with the impact of the outcome which resulted

Can I suggest therefore in the negotiations in January between the GAA and AFL that if the concept is to endure that more significant penalties are required. A yellow card should be a sin bin style caution as in hockey, ice hockey and rugby with a five – ten minute send off period during which the player CANNOT be replaced. I would also suggest that a second yellow card equates to a red (similar to soccer) in which case the current rules regarding a red card apply. This should introduce a greater level of discipline in both player camps for what is otherwise a very entertaining game which I personally would like to see continue.

Kind regards

Brett Brimfield

 

[Bill James]

The Irish are prepared for legal physical play that they don't experience in their own game but in addition they get our home made "made him earn it" philosphy which is technically illegal but difficult to penalise, moderate high contact when a mark looks likely to be conceded, landing on a players back after he marks, pushing a players head into the ground as you get up from a stoppage, holding a player a half second too long when a free is awarded etc. I should imagine the irish have studied the rule book and get incensed by these little niggles and then decide to respond in kind. Unfortunately their style involves the gentle art of knees and head butts. These are actions which we find intolerable and next thing you know the game Crokes. 

 

[nitrotiger]

Good riddance to the Irish and garlic footy.
I still say theyre the biggest bunch of sooks since Australia started growin better spuds than them....Its a bloody joke...flamin two faced leprachauns.....

 

[Bill James]

Good riddance to the Irish and garlic footy.
I still say theyre the biggest bunch of sooks since Australia started growin better spuds than them....Its a bloody joke...flamin two faced leprachauns.....

Yes Nitro, I understand why the respond on the ground, but agree they are a bunch of sooks after the event.

 

[interested]

The Australian's took the physicality to a level which was simply ridiculous.
1) If the Australian's took it seriously every year, the serious would be an embarrassing whitewash.
2) The Irish have no physicality in their game, so, even with the round ball, the rues are weighted heavily in Australia's favour
3) The Irish game is amatuer, one of their players is a teacher, and most others have office jobs or the like. Its just so different to the AFL that its not funny
4) Th reason the Irish get massive crowds over there is not necessarily due to enjoying the actual game. In Australia, we have Netball, Cricket, Rugby, Swimming, Soccer, and many other national teams to support. In Ireland, they have Rugby and Soccer. They have so few nationally represented sports, that they will latch on to anything that has 'Ireland v' as a label.

The series is not capable of continuing when its Amatuer v Professional. Its quite ridiculous to be honest.

 

[palmyscum]

The Australian's took the physicality to a level which was simply ridiculous.
1) If the Australian's took it seriously every year, the serious would be an embarrassing whitewash.
2) The Irish have no physicality in their game, so, even with the round ball, the rues are weighted heavily in Australia's favour
3) The Irish game is amatuer, one of their players is a teacher, and most others have office jobs or the like. Its just so different to the AFL that its not funny
4) Th reason the Irish get massive crowds over there is not necessarily due to enjoying the actual game. In Australia, we have Netball, Cricket, Rugby, Swimming, Soccer, and many other national teams to support. In Ireland, they have Rugby and Soccer. They have so few nationally represented sports, that they will latch on to anything that has 'Ireland v' as a label.

The series is not capable of continuing when its Amatuer v Professional. Its quite ridiculous to be honest.

great post mate

someone of them might actually be barman serving the australian team

 

[Bill James]

The Australian's took the physicality to a level which was simply ridiculous.
1) If the Australian's took it seriously every year, the serious would be an embarrassing whitewash.
2) The Irish have no physicality in their game, so, even with the round ball, the rues are weighted heavily in Australia's favour
3) The Irish game is amatuer, one of their players is a teacher, and most others have office jobs or the like. Its just so different to the AFL that its not funny
4) Th reason the Irish get massive crowds over there is not necessarily due to enjoying the actual game. In Australia, we have Netball, Cricket, Rugby, Swimming, Soccer, and many other national teams to support. In Ireland, they have Rugby and Soccer. They have so few nationally represented sports, that they will latch on to anything that has 'Ireland v' as a label.

The series is not capable of continuing when its Amatuer v Professional. Its quite ridiculous to be honest.

great post mate

someone of them might actually be barman serving the australian team

So Fev just had a mistaken identity issue.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Won't see me complaining if they cancel the hybrid game.
There's already far to many of their watered down rules been applied to our game in recent years and if the cockheads at the rules of the game committee watch to much more of this stuff we will be playing to the same rules as the peewees in the little league.
We've had a huge amount of uproar this year about incidental head clashes when a player gets bumped, and I'm not talking about when someone gets nailed while he has his head down over the ball.
Just the other day that bloody old fossil K.B. was having a whinge about Pierces tackle on Geraghty when his arms were pinned and then started going on about Hammils tackle on Schulz etc. and claimed we should make it illeagle to pin the arms in a tackle or sling players down coz the poor lambs might get hurt.
Bastards are turning our game into absolute *smile*.