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Thoughts on the coaching staff anyone?

YES, excellent post Jack!

Dyer Disciple said:
He does have a healthy ego which i think you need as a coach and I have no doubt he could be very ruthless if required. He was a very smart footballer, certainly has a "footy brain".

Only questions is how big is it and could he handle the pressure, he doesn't suffer fools.

I would love to see him return to Punt Road, strong gut instinct says he could be very good.
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I see Campbell more as a replacement to Wallace than a complement to Wallace - unfortunately. Likem em both, just think it might be hard for him to work with Wallace in terms of personality types - would like to know what our guru thinks Phantom ;D)

Wayne Campbell will become an elite coach one day - if he chooses to be and takes his opportunities.
 
Freezer said:
Can I ask why not Lambert, DD?
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I’m a bit conflicted over him. One big thing that makes him attractive is his exposure to a culture of success and working under a great coach in Matthews.

Though I have a suspicion he is destined to just be a very good assistant coach, so if you JUST want a good assistant coach at the club then sure, I’d add him as a candidate.

Yet I feel this next Assistant Coach needs to have strong potential to possibly replace Wallace, more so than Royal or Rawlings. As I stated earlier I would like to have a strong senior coaching candidate in the wings like a lot of the better run clubs do. Especially with this current timing of being about to go into Wallace’s last contracted year.

Lambert was never the best communicator as a player, his certainly not the most articulate, and he doesn’t have much of a aura about him for mine. I have heard he has a VERY good football brain, but it takes more than just that.

I question his drive/motivation for coaching, unfairly, but I do. He seems very quiet and complacent at Brisbane, his never been anywhere else. For a guy coaching as long as he has at a highly respected culture his never been a strong and/or willing applicant for the coaching jobs that have popped up in his time. First major attachment I have heard him have is as a possible Gold Coast coach in their formulative first couple of year, yet within a day or two I saw he withdrew his name from the hat sharply, I think I read somewhere too

Lastly, and this is just a personal thing, I don’t like the way he left Richmond. Was very mercenary and cold and his never really shown anything but contempt for us since. I could be unfair on these last two accounts, just my impressions.

Whilst I was keen on signing Wallace the biggest reservation I had about him was the way he left the Bulldogs. I think character is very important when you are a coach. Hell Leon Cameron spent two seconds at Richmond, same as Graham and they talk with respect of their time there. Campbell has a lot of character and put up with a lot of crap at Punt Rd and when he was in the States after he retired he kept checking in on the side to see how things were going. Bond/Gale etc still love Richmond, Maxwell and Knights could have some fair gripes but still love the club etc

Sure, Lambert could just be a different cat, but my gut instinct has serious doubts about him.

Not sure I articulated my response to you very well, best I can do I am afraid, bit conflicted/unsure over him. Which is why I left him off. Would be happy to have him as a Assistant Coach but others in line before him definitely, unlike Campbell.
 
Cheers, Dyer - some fair points you raise. I really only asked because as you say, he's been very quiet up north and I don't know a lot about him anymore.

The idea of him being back at Tigerland is quite "romantic" but if it's square pegs for round holes, then no thanks.
 
Dyer Disciple said:
Lastly, and this is just a personal thing, I don’t like the way he left Richmond. Was very mercenary and cold and his never really shown anything but contempt for us since. I could be unfair on these last two accounts, just my impressions.
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I recall that Lambert was unhappy with certain treatment - so there wasn't anything "mercenary" as you put it. Know a guy on the Bris committee so will dig a bit about Lambert. With Gary O'Donnell gone, maybe Lambs is working his way in to replace Leigh some day - thought Gary O'Donnell was a shoo-in at Essendon, then didn't put his hand up - suprised me bit. Word I have is Gary pulled as many strings as Leigh during the three-peat and was privatley revered for his efforts up in Bris.

Shaun Hart is working like crazy to get the GC gig - currently coaching Broadbeach with moderate success, but very aggressive all the same.
 
pharace said:
I recall that Lambert was unhappy with certain treatment - so there wasn't anything "mercenary" as you put it. Know a guy on the Bris committee so will dig a bit about Lambert. With Gary O'Donnell gone, maybe Lambs is working his way in to replace Leigh some day - thought Gary O'Donnell was a shoo-in at Essendon, then didn't put his hand up - suprised me bit. Word I have is Gary pulled as many strings as Leigh during the three-peat and was privatley revered for his efforts up in Bris.

Shaun Hart is working like crazy to get the GC gig - currently coaching Broadbeach with moderate success, but very aggressive all the same.
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Lambert was unhappy with certain treatment? Well first i heard of that, and would like some conceivable example of how this could be a case...

Secondly, it was a shocking time at the club...Campbell and Knights put up with far more crap than Lambert ever would have....at least Campbell was passionate enough to stick around and fight for a club he loved...

Lambert went, on my mail, and there is fair common conjecture about this also...for money. Pure and simple.

Very much a case akin to Ottens. Was purely a fiscal move, he was shopping himself around!

I thought O'Donnell was a shoo-in at essendon also, and the stories about his "strategic moves" are well known.

Yet he has been battling for some time with his career path. The friend I have who played under Hird said Gary wanted more a Football manager/administrative position (hmmm thought just clicking now, how about him at Punt Rd?) Essendon have been putting a hard word on him to coach in the hope he will get a spark that will grow to a inferno.

Missed the bus now, but yes, very highly rated.

That same friend has spoken how Hird told him he doubts he could be a coach, due to getting too attached to players. I suspect O'Donnell has similar but different doubts..ala...at a guess...I don't think he likes the media attention/scrutiny that comes with a high profile position. His a very humble, unassuming bloke.

He prefers to be the power behind the throne.

As far as Shaun Hart, I would think he has buckley chances (no pun intended) of the GC position, that job will go to B. Scott or McCrae if i had to bet on it. I'm betting Scott. This crap about McKenna being fave is not my understanding.

Only good thing about the CG position is i suspect they will announce it soon as they are already into second round interviews, obviously (smartly) trying to beat the end of season/finals off field insanity.
 
Was anybody listening to SEN around 8am this morning? I thought I heard a quote from Nathan Buckley criticising Eddie Mc Guire and his handling of the Shaw fiasco?

May have just been wishfull thinking on my behalf, but a rift between those two would create some very interesting coaching options for those assuming Bucks was a shoe in at Collingwood.
 
Yeah he did. There was some discussion that FatEd and Bucks may not see eye to eye on some issues. Given how its turned out Bucks was exactly right, FatEd left himself open to looking like a complete fool.
 
IanG said:
Yeah he did. There was some discussion that FatEd and Bucks may not see eye to eye on some issues. Given how its turned out Bucks was exactly right, FatEd left himself open to looking like a complete fool.
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This is exciting news for us on the "Bucks for coach 2010" bandwagon. I believe he and Campbell get on well too, Buckley/Campbell, coach and assistant??
 
linuscambridge said:
This is exciting news for us on the "Bucks for coach 2010" bandwagon. I believe he and Campbell get on well too, Buckley/Campbell, coach and assistant??
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Both young and fresh - i'll hop on to that bandwagon when it goes past. Be sure to catch it.
 
Ed and Bucks had a massive falling out a while back.

At his testimonial he thanked everyone down to the bootstudder personally but no mention of Ed.
 
Missing33 said:
Ed and Bucks had a massive falling out a while back.

At his testimonial he thanked everyone down to the bootstudder personally but no mention of Ed.
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:o That is a massive thing to do. What caused the falling out?
 
Personally, I'd've thought that a 360 Team Assessment, involving the Coaching Staff, Players & other members of the Football dept would be the basis for any coaching review.

The Coaching staff would complete self assessments.

The focus of the players & other football staff responses would be on the coaching staff.

Any significant responses pointing towards a particular coaching staff member could be followed up by an individual 360.

Of course all responses would remain de-identified & confidential.
 
Missing33 said:
Ed and Bucks had a massive falling out a while back.

At his testimonial he thanked everyone down to the bootstudder personally but no mention of Ed.
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So if you take Collingwood out of the equation, because Eddie isn't going anywhere in a hurry, who would be the next best Victorian club for Bucks to coach? Essendon has arguably more holes in the list than the Tigers, Melbourne will probably be shipped to Tassie in a couple of years, the successful clubs aren't looking for a change. Who does that leave?

Just a club with a bunch of young talent, about to drop 20 mill on state of the art facilities and with a board looking to put a winning structure in place.

Cmon down Bucks!!
 
Phantom said:
Personally, I'd've thought that a 360 Team Assessment, involving the Coaching Staff, Players & other members of the Football dept would be the basis for any coaching review.

The Coaching staff would complete self assessments.

The focus of the players & other football staff responses would be on the coaching staff.

Any significant responses pointing towards a particular coaching staff member could be followed up by an individual 360.

Of course all responses would remain de-identified & confidential.
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I'm confused Phanto are you being serious or cynical?
 
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