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Tigers game style

Kamdyn-With-a-K

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There's no doubt countless threads on this. But how would people describe how our game style has changed from 2017-2022? What were the little tweaks in our premiership years?
2017 seemed to be lots of forward handball, move it quick, rely on turnovers (like now). But we were undermanned in the forward line so we'd play a more territory game and try and lock it in and build pressure.
Once Lynch came along we had two key forward targets which I think changed the way we moved the ball offensively.
This year we seemed to start out trying to play more tempo, chip it around more, hold the ball. But then we got to 2-4 and seemed to abandon it and go back to the chaos/turnover game. Have teams sort of worked us out with this style, though?
 

Jonesracing82

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Sep 30, 2011
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I thought we went the more tempo style game to try to work around the stupid stand rule. that didn't work for us so we went back to what did work. It's worked for us althought not all results have gone the way we'd like our form is building nicely at the right time of the yr
 
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Number8

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Oct 12, 2010
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I'm not great with on-field strategy and a lot of the subtleties pass me by, but there are two things I think were transformative from 2017 onwards.

The first was the revolutionary idea of embracing the specific abilities and traits of each player on the list and giving them the licence to play to their strengths. When you think about it, what a way to get the best out of your list. It's arguable we've lost our way on this front a little bit, with the likes of Jack Ross being swung into unusual outside roles when he looks to be a great in-and-under contested beast. But, in general, I think this is still a core idea at Richmond.

The second was definitely playing the turnover game ... being willing to lose the first possession at clearance in order to win the second and subsequent ones, shifting defences, catching them out of position and opening up the forward line with quick ball movement. While it's a taxing game style, the past month shows us it still works.
 
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Kamdyn-With-a-K

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I'm not great with on-field strategy and a lot of the subtleties pass me by, but there are two things I think were transformative from 2017 onwards.

The first was the revolutionary idea of embracing the specific abilities and traits of each player on the list and giving them the licence to play to their strengths. When you think about it, what a way to get the best out of your list. It's arguable we've lost our way on this front a little bit, with the likes of Jack Ross being swung into unusual outside roles when he looks to be a great in-and-under contested beast. But, in general, I think this is still a core idea at Richmond.

The second was definitely playing the turnover game ... being willing to lose the first possession at clearance in order to win the second and subsequent ones, shifting defences, catching them out of position and opening up the forward line with quick ball movement. While it's a taxing game style, the past month shows us it still works.
Great insights! Agree we're getting our turnover game back on track. We seem to be winning the ball back across half back. We still don't seem to stifle teams like we once did, although recently we've been scoring big offensively. We can turn it on for stages and it's electrifying to watch! Although when the oppo gets momentum we look way more vulnerable than 2017-20.
 
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BillyJean17

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Pretty right we tinkered early trying to adapt to new rules and looked crap , much closer to original Richmond footy and facts are we’ve been in every single game since reverting back , post the Adelaide debacle , save the absence of dusty our f50 is looking more dangerous than ever , sec highest scoring side says as much , when the ball lobs in , boy is it hot
 
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Dyer'ere

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2022? We're about scoring, cheap plays, rorting the AFL rules, and perimeter ball movement as a default. We use the guts as an ambush, defaulting to boundary and outside run.

We're not about stopping them scoring, altogether. Dimma laments often that we left goals on the table. He doesn't often mention that we let them score. Quite a change.

That's not to say that we won't just tighten up to ruin somebody's day. (Stratagems. Deception. 2022.) In fact, I'm sure we will.

But the 2022 focus on ball movement at the expense of defence has been pronounced. Score, score, score.

We're building a new Richmond. A marketable Richmond based on scoring.

We're a club that can see the writing on the wall re CTE. Can see that collisions must and will be reduced in the AFL. (Who's gunna pay?) Not just concussions - collisions.

This is a year of transition from Strangling Richmond to Scoring Richmond. The fans will love that, right?
 
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DavidSSS

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Dec 11, 2017
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Great insights! Agree we're getting our turnover game back on track. We seem to be winning the ball back across half back. We still don't seem to stifle teams like we once did, although recently we've been scoring big offensively. We can turn it on for stages and it's electrifying to watch! Although when the oppo gets momentum we look way more vulnerable than 2017-20.

I agree, but I'd argue that all teams look more vulnerable in defence than in previous years. Apparently it is what the AFL want.

DS
 
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waiting

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I agree, but I'd argue that all teams look more vulnerable in defence than in previous years. Apparently it is what the AFL want.

DS
Agree David .
All teams years look vulnerable. Goals can quickly be scored. Momentum can change. Run ons can result in 4 plus goals.

Interesting stat I heard today.
Concerning.

Tigers are 13TH in general play. ?
 

mrposhman

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Oct 6, 2013
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Agree David .
All teams years look vulnerable. Goals can quickly be scored. Momentum can change. Run ons can result in 4 plus goals.

Interesting stat I heard today.
Concerning.

Tigers are 13TH in general play. ?

What do you mean by 13th in General Play?
 

Carter

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Nov 14, 2012
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Agree we look more offensively oriented.

Apart from that, the turnover game that netted us three flags is still the 1-wood.

I think we will tighten up the team defence in the EF.

Thanks for your efforts, Teaguey, but it’s finals time.

Tighter defence, along with so many offensive players *in form* to cover whatever shortfall that creates, will be a cup-winning recipe.

Watch out for a surprisingly dour defensive effort against Essendon.

A free hit to test our defensive structures.
 
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Smoking Aces

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Sep 21, 2007
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I mentioned this in another thread but probably more appropriate here.

I know its champion data and some people scoff at what they throw up but we are ranked 13th in the comp without the footy. This results in easy forward 50 entries to the opposition.

We definitely need to improve in that area come finals time. You can get away with it when playing the middle rung teams but you will get punished if its a Geelong or Sydney who also score heavily.
 
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craig

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Aug 19, 2004
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Maybe the side has been working on attack first, and will return the focus to defensive submission come September.
 

Harry

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Mar 2, 2003
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My main concern is our overall defence. We are ranked 14th I think without the ball. This used to be a strength of ours
 
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Tigers2020

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We are ranked 17th for pressure over the last few weeks which impacts all our other defensive measures.
 

eZyT

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Jun 28, 2019
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The main evolution i see from 2021,

Is that we're gonna win the flag

I really want our big dance partner to be geelong,

And see peggy lift hockings skirt and fist *smile* him,

But i reckon it's gonna be sydney.

mRJ knocking buddy out would be a pretty good consolation premiership
 

CarnTheTiges

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Mar 8, 2004
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2022? We're about scoring, cheap plays, rorting the AFL rules, and perimeter ball movement as a default. We use the guts as an ambush, defaulting to boundary and outside run.

We're not about stopping them scoring, altogether. Dimma laments often that we left goals on the table. He doesn't often mention that we let them score. Quite a change.

That's not to say that we won't just tighten up to ruin somebody's day. (Stratagems. Deception. 2022.) In fact, I'm sure we will.

But the 2022 focus on ball movement at the expense of defence has been pronounced. Score, score, score.

We're building a new Richmond. A marketable Richmond based on scoring.

We're a club that can see the writing on the wall re CTE. Can see that collisions must and will be reduced in the AFL. (Who's gunna pay?) Not just concussions - collisions.

This is a year of transition from Strangling Richmond to Scoring Richmond. The fans will love that, right?
It harks back to Hafey. He said he didn’t care how much our opponents scored, as long as we scored more.
 
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Harry

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We are ranked 17th for pressure over the last few weeks which impacts all our other defensive measures.
strange stats for us. We need to improve our pressure rating in the finals.
 
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daniel30

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Need to tighten up defence wise especially come finals defence , but we need to get the balance right between attack and defence hopefully coaches on to it defence wins .
 
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Rfc4Ever

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Oct 5, 2007
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The big thing for me was our fitness.
We ended up running over most teams, would be interested to see stats of how well we scored in 2nd halves compared to our opposition, especially in 2017