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Tigers vs Bombers - Game day thread
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As I said last week, the Scum are on the rise sitting 1st.
Thank God they play in Subiaco next week...........or is WC going to start a slump :-\
Thank God they play in Subiaco next week...........or is WC going to start a slump :-\
Phantom said:
I'm still tossing up between atmospheric conditions or skills. I still can't put my finger on it.
From the Player of the Year vs Bummers thread...didnt want to reply to it in there...
I guess its your opinion, but thats a little silly. The majority of Lucas' scoring came in that period in the last quarter, where he kicked 3 goals and a few points, which was when Essendon had control and their delivery into the forward line was such that Bowden had little chance to intercept (mind you, I was up the other end of the ground, but thats what it seemed). So you're saying that Bowden did everything to lose the game for us in that short final quarter period? So what about the rest of the game?
How about this one? Dean Polo, who had 29 possies, 3 goals, got the BOG, was opposed to Brent Stanton most of the night. I'd rate Stanton as one of the better players for the Dons last night. Yet, because his opponent ran rampage, by your logic, Stanton shouldnt get votes (if we were voting for Dons players). Or, going back to last year, James Clement had control of Nathan Brown for 3 quarters, then in the last, as we all know, Nathan went bananas. So Clement "did his best to lose the game for Collingwood"? Pfffft.
I'm not saying that Bowden was our best last night, but he did his job as our general of the backline and if the Dons hadn't exploded like they did, we'd be praising him for his effort on keeping the dangerous Lucas quiet. And as interested said, he gave us heaps of drive out of defence, which he does every game. But to say he did everything in his power to lose us the game...that's just silly. You're welcome to your opinion, but keep the hyperbole down a little, k?
Gypsy__Jazz said:
I guess its your opinion, but thats a little silly. The majority of Lucas' scoring came in that period in the last quarter, where he kicked 3 goals and a few points, which was when Essendon had control and their delivery into the forward line was such that Bowden had little chance to intercept (mind you, I was up the other end of the ground, but thats what it seemed). So you're saying that Bowden did everything to lose the game for us in that short final quarter period? So what about the rest of the game?
How about this one? Dean Polo, who had 29 possies, 3 goals, got the BOG, was opposed to Brent Stanton most of the night. I'd rate Stanton as one of the better players for the Dons last night. Yet, because his opponent ran rampage, by your logic, Stanton shouldnt get votes (if we were voting for Dons players). Or, going back to last year, James Clement had control of Nathan Brown for 3 quarters, then in the last, as we all know, Nathan went bananas. So Clement "did his best to lose the game for Collingwood"? Pfffft.
I'm not saying that Bowden was our best last night, but he did his job as our general of the backline and if the Dons hadn't exploded like they did, we'd be praising him for his effort on keeping the dangerous Lucas quiet. And as interested said, he gave us heaps of drive out of defence, which he does every game. But to say he did everything in his power to lose us the game...that's just silly. You're welcome to your opinion, but keep the hyperbole down a little, k?
There's been alot of talk about Richmond allowing easy possession throughout last night match; My theory indicates, Wallace was more than happy to allow Essendon some free run around the flanks. The reason? Simple.
If Richmond had gone man on man in that situation, the Bombers would have been cutting the ball through the middle, thus giving Essendon a free run inside 50. This would have hurt the Tigers, given the role JB was playing on Lucas.
Full credit to Wallace & the Tigers, for not taking the option to go one on one. Ultimately, it gave Essendon plenty of carry & run, but with the Tigers pushing back, the main objective was to make it cluttered in our defensive 50, then, by winning possesion, it was hard run through the middle, something the Bombers were prepared to concede, given our lack of forward options. They were exposed on many occassions - The game by Pettifer is a good example.
If Richmond had gone man on man in that situation, the Bombers would have been cutting the ball through the middle, thus giving Essendon a free run inside 50. This would have hurt the Tigers, given the role JB was playing on Lucas.
Full credit to Wallace & the Tigers, for not taking the option to go one on one. Ultimately, it gave Essendon plenty of carry & run, but with the Tigers pushing back, the main objective was to make it cluttered in our defensive 50, then, by winning possesion, it was hard run through the middle, something the Bombers were prepared to concede, given our lack of forward options. They were exposed on many occassions - The game by Pettifer is a good example.
RROFO said:
Sorry RROFO...misread your name! Yep, I was aware you were just quoting the stats rather than an opinion...nothing personal, just a gripe at the way the modern game is played making stats often irrelevant.
skybeau said:
That is my logic. Except for the "Pfffft" bit. AND I wouldn't say Clement did everything in his power to lose Collingwood that match, he is a close checking back man who was outclassed by a better player. Lucas can't catch the ball if there is someone in the same postcode as him, so the fact that he took 11 marks shows how much defensive pressure Bowden was putting on him.
You can give votes to players who get beaten by their direct opponent, Skybeau... I am not stopping you.
Your logic is clearly flawed, brother.
RE: Stanton
His DIRECT OPPONENT was a debutant and was clearly B.O.G. A bit of a worry... but he goes alright. A good young player.
Rayzorwire said:
Yes I knew it was nothing personal. Agree about the stats being meaningless. Hopefully the proliferation of stats in our game doesn't mean we are heading the way of those 2 great American games Baseball and Gridiron where the stats have become more important than the game.
Couldn't agree more RROFO...I would add, it disappoints me when the best player lists and media hype focuses so much on accumulation of possessions rather than what is done with them.
Ghost of Punt Road
Tiger Champion
Mark Thompson said Geelong was playing the youngest 22 in the AFL.
Surely not younger that our Tiges on Saturday?
Surely not younger that our Tiges on Saturday?
I don't know if anyone elsae posted it, I had a quick look and could'nt find it. I reckon a turning point in the last Q was when Lucas kicked his third and gave a huge up-yours fist at the Richmond players and fans. I saw the Richmond players look very pissed off, and the Ess players body language seemed to suggest they wished he hadn't done it. Just a thought. When he did it I thought to myself 'that is some very high-stakes celebrating'.
What I have liked so far is that when we have being challenged late in the game, we have not dropped our heads and conceded but have kept running and won the game.
Great move by Plough to bring on JOn late in game for that reason we say at the end. Genuine style about the players with their run and back themselves and carry the ball. Its not going to work everytime but its just new and it will happen.
I know we have only beaten bottam sides but at least we are beating them and gaining confidence when we play better sides like Sydney.
Great move by Plough to bring on JOn late in game for that reason we say at the end. Genuine style about the players with their run and back themselves and carry the ball. Its not going to work everytime but its just new and it will happen.
I know we have only beaten bottam sides but at least we are beating them and gaining confidence when we play better sides like Sydney.
Skills said:
Great post SCOOP. Ess had more inside 50s by a slim margin - yet we looked much more likely to score (points
)except for the middle of the last quarter when the centre breaks and direct play gave the Essendon forward line a chance.If we had managed to prevent the quick centre breaks in the last and kicked more goals in the 2nd quarter we would have won by a handsome margin.