Time for supporters to stand firm

[ThePercies]

But Wayne as a coach worries me. He's inexperienced and has had no exposure to a successful club.

Agreed.

I believe that Wayne was brought back to the club as a fall back option incase Wallace stuffed up this season. The Bulldogs talked him up big time in the preseason and I think we have fallen for the bait. Time will tell i guess :

 

[IanG]

I'd be surprised if there wasn't an out in his contract in case a senior gig comes up.

With Hawthorn's permission but I doubt they'd permit such a disruption to their 2009 campaign until t\he end of the year.

 

[Herbie1960]

The supporters have been standing firm for the past 25 years and keeping the club going by being members over the duration. That's not going to change -when we all love this club with a passion. However it's time for those in charge of it to fix it once and for all.

Totally agree Tigers 2011, We as members and Supporters demand it.

 

[Bunnerz]

we are hopeless but still think we will finish about 7th.

 

[Tigerfan]

What if the player's aren't the problem?

Maybe there is nothing wrong with Schulz, Oakley-Nicholls, Tambling and hughes.

What if the club just cannot develop players.

Neil Craig recently said they don't care about draft picks; they just develop the players they have got.

is our player development the problem

Good post BTW 17

 

[TigerForce]

What if the player's aren't the problem?

Maybe there is nothing wrong with Schulz, Oakley-Nicholls, Tambling and hughes.

What if the club just cannot develop players.

Neil Craig recently said they don't care about draft picks; they just develop the players they have got.

is our player development the problem

Good post BTW 17

That's a thought which always sticks in my mind. I heard a commentator on yesterday's game say that Brian Lake is a much improved player under Eade (compared to when Wallace was coach).

 

[thisistigerland]

It would be ludicrous to hang on to Wallace until the end of the season, if we are travelling in a similar way as we are at the moment. If we some chance, I agree you need to allow him to get his job done however, as soon as it becomes apparent that the finals are a distant dream he must leave otherwise it will be a waste of more time. Get in SHeedy as a caretaker, and let him try and work some passion and confidence back into the place. Then we target the best possible coach to coach us next year.

 

[Liverpool]

What if the player's aren't the problem?
Maybe there is nothing wrong with Schulz, Oakley-Nicholls, Tambling and hughes.
What if the club just cannot develop players.

Neil Craig recently said they don't care about draft picks; they just develop the players they have got.

is our player development the problem
Good post BTW 17

DirtyDog,
Exactly!!!! :clap
Its why the talk of draft picks and tanking *smile* me!

We've had top draft picks before and we're still *smile* ....so its not the answer.

The answer is getting the gameplan to suit the players you have (not have a gameplan because its the 'cool thing' and Hawthorn does it so we should too).......and ingraining a competitiveness into the players.

One big blanket change this week and let the young kids start forging a new identity and culture for a start.
Let them bang it long down to the goal-square and take players on through the middle and have a *smile* dip.

Listening to Jack Riewoldt yesterday blabber on about not fulfilling our KPI (key performance indicators) and other theoretical nonsense.....and having fools holding up whiteboards with scribble all over it.
And why the hell do players come off the ground 2 minutes into the quarter or after they have kicked a goal?
What we do that because Geelong does it...? who gives a stuff!
If someone kicks a goal...runner should go out....tap him on the bum, say job well done and bloody do it again son!

I want to see enthusiasm and gang-tackling...long kicks instead of pussy little sideway chips that just invite a turnover.
At least a long kick down into the forward-50...if turned over, won't result in a goal 2 seconds later (a la King/Bling on the weekend).

We need to develop our young players by being competitive and letting them have a go.

 

[thisistigerland]

I agree we need to have long kicks however, we need to start blooding some players to mark these kicks or at least make a contest. i.e putt, post.

 

[Azza]

The answer is getting the gameplan to suit the players you have (not have a gameplan because its the 'cool thing' and Hawthorn does it so we should too)...

:clapping

... or because Wallace thinks he has the gameplan that will revolutionise the game, and insists on shoe-horning his players into that mould.

 

[Baloo]

... or because Wallace thinks he has the gameplan that will revolutionise the game, and insists on shoe-horning his players into that mould.

You know, that's it in a nutshell. Wallace has a grand vision that he knows what the future of football is going to look like and he wants to be the first to introduce to the masses. Sadly he's wrong, his vision isn't the right one. So we're left with a team that was built to play a fast running, contact avoiding handball which is only good when you have the ball and the opposition are caught off guard.

Wallace's ego has set us back another four or five years. With the AFL nearly guaranteeing Gold Coast a flag in 5 years, I wonder if it's not too late for RFC to ask for the ralocation.

 

[thisistigerland]

I wonder if its not to late to go to Demetriou cap in hand and say we are sorry for throwing away all of our past low picks, but would you mind if we get some priority picks this year .

 

[hellenictiger]

Wallace has picked the cattle, he knew what he was getting and he turned them into players that cant handle the pressure. The coaches state of mind will be reflected upon the players. They just cant handle it!

Bring in Hardwick!!!!!

And this is something we are not foreign to, we are Richmond supporters any glimmer of hope in our side and we always mention silly words like finals & premiership.

 

[17]

Hardwick won't come mid year, if at all, so his urgers should all take a cold shoulder.
We'll win this week and the media vultures will be forced to move on.
We are probably on par with North so could well be 2-3 in just over a fortnight from now.
Even if we are not 2-3, people have to realise that the skill deficiences in the players cannot be resolved with a magic wand, by a new coach or an existing one.
Those people clamouring for Matthews to replace Wallace immediately should read his article on AFL website in the past week where he says the key to a successful coaching career is 80% players and 20% coach.
In other words, if the club does not have the ability to recruit the quality of player to the standard required, it doesn't matter how good your coach is.
That's from a four time premiership coach no less, so perhaps people should acknowledge the message in that statement.
I am not Terry's greatest supporter but whilst he is the club figurehead and popular conduit for abuse, the club administration's failure to adequately fund and structure the recruiting department is the very obvious cause of our list problems.