Tonight's board meeting

[Tigers of Old]

If we had half an idea we would sack Wallace, appoint a caretaker (ie the bootstudder) and direct him to not win more than 4 games.

Play it smart Tiges - tank and tank hard.

Carlton 2007. Only dif is Ratten was promised a job out of it.
I reckon we do need to make the most of this draft.

Try to win but play the kids & the fringies.

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

If this is the case, what is the fundamental point in retaining a coach, that me, you guys and the rest of the world know is not our coach no longer?

I am absolutely shocked that some posters can realise that Wallace is gone, has his papers stamped, is no longer our coach, yet, think it's a great decision to have him keep on coaching, keep on being the face of our club, keep on having the greatest stake in our playing list development and future.

All this does is keep our club under this cloud, attached with the biggest media circus into what will happen to Wallace and the future of our club, whilst maintaining the laughing stock mantra attached. Which in turn has blokes like Damian Barrett write really basic level learning articles like the one in the paper we will see tomorrow.

Move Wallace along, get Jade Rawlings in as caretaker for the remainder of the year, and do our search for a new coach with the freedom of 18 weeks.

They've said he's got until round 12, if we're 0-12 we can say we're not reappointing Wallace and go out into the market with more than enough time to recruit the next coach. The kind of guys we want may not be able to do interviews until the end of the year anyway.

The sacking of Wallace surrenders the season in only round 4 and the careers of a least 3 of our players. The board to owe it to the coach and the players a few more weeks to mount an unlikely turnaround, if for no other reason than to demonstrate to the next coach that the board has some mettle.

The footy media will get bored and move on to other topics, if you have guts you can always outlast the HUN's attention span.

If we had half an idea we would sack Wallace, appoint a caretaker (ie the bootstudder) and direct him to not win more than 4 games. Get the first or second pick and the priority pick before GC rape the 2010 draft. It's called tanking forward planning. Keeping Wallace would lead to us winning meaningless games and missing out on high picks.

You know based on the 09 form your objectives would best be served by keeping Wallace on...

 

[GoodOne]

If this is the case, what is the fundamental point in retaining a coach, that me, you guys and the rest of the world know is not our coach no longer?

On that basis whatis the fundamental point for arguing the assigning a caretaker coach until the end of the season?

I think it is the right move to retain Wallace until at least a review in the middle of the season. This is what March has said he would be doing for some time and its a breath of fresh air to know that a Richmond management is finally sticking to their guns. A caretaker coach would only be Campbell or King, they are already part of the coaching panel, what is the point in sacking Wallace so one of them can take over? Any talk of Sheedy or any other leading light sticking up their hand to babysit the team until a new coach is found is just a fanciful dream.

 

[Harry]

You know based on the 09 form your objectives would best be served by keeping Wallace on...

Nah, he'll get the team up and scrape a few meaningless wins in the latter part of the season when teams put the cue in the rack.

 

[IanG]

If this is the case, what is the fundamental point in retaining a coach, that me, you guys and the rest of the world know is not our coach no longer?

I am absolutely shocked that some posters can realise that Wallace is gone, has his papers stamped, is no longer our coach, yet, think it's a great decision to have him keep on coaching, keep on being the face of our club, keep on having the greatest stake in our playing list development and future.

All this does is keep our club under this cloud, attached with the biggest media circus into what will happen to Wallace and the future of our club, whilst maintaining the laughing stock mantra attached. Which in turn has blokes like Damian Barrett write really basic level learning articles like the one in the paper we will see tomorrow.

Why would someone like Hardwick want the job if we go round sacking coaches at rd 4? Like someone else said the media will move on at some point.

 

[Tigerbob]

They've said he's got until round 12, if we're 0-12 we can say we're not reappointing Wallace and go out into the market with more than enough time to recruit the next coach. The kind of guys we want may not be able to do interviews until the end of the year anyway.

The sacking of Wallace surrenders the season in only round 4 and the careers of a least 3 of our players. The board to owe it to the coach and the players a few more weeks to mount an unlikely turnaround, if for no other reason than to demonstrate to the next coach that the board has some mettle.

The footy media will get bored and move on to other topics, if you have guts you can always outlast the HUN's attention span.

Don't agree but well put. I see no point in hoping we get to 0-12 or 2 - 10, before we get rid of the impostor.


As for the media, not bloody likely, this decision will have them all celebrating tonight.

You know based on the 09 form your objectives would best be served by keeping Wallace on...

:hihi probably right, but would be damaged if a few mindless wins covers some cracks about how bad we truly are.

Whats the point of a caretaker who wont be coach next year and will be probably out of the club next year when coach demands his own team.

Again, whats the point of the other alternative?

 

[Tigerhart04]

Pleasing to see the board has some solidarity at long last. Like or lump the decision, they've started the review process in July last year with discussions on futures etc to be handled at this years mid-season review. They haven't deviated and I commend them.

 

[yellow_and_black]

Pleasing to see the board has some solidarity at long last. /quote]

Not sure about that. Sounds like it was a close vote.

 

[RemoteTiger]

Why would someone like Hardwick want the job if we go round sacking coaches at rd 4? Like someone else said the media will move on at some point.

IanG - I would love to negotiate a contract for 5 years for big dollars and know that if my performance is poor I will not get sacked - is that the message we want to give to our next coach - be successful in your presentations, interviews and negotiations and your are on a gravy train for 5 years no matter what the team does!

Surely we want a new coach to know that if he does not perform he will be put through due process and removed. Which is what must happen to Wallace in the week between rounds 11 and 12. In fact should happen prior to that if the teams form does not improve - it is not so much that we lose games it is the ineptness in how we lose those games.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

The announcement that Wallace is safe until mid-year will take some of the spotlight off the coaching position and allow the club to make discreet enquiries without causing further disruption.

 

[Tigerhart04]

Where did you get the closeness info Y & B?

 

[yellow_and_black]

Where did you get the closeness info Y & B?

Somebody earlier in this thread (or another?) had heard the board was split on whether to sack Wallace or not.

 

[doherz]

Who won't negotiate till the end of the year?

Please don't be gullible enough to believe that whilst there is an open position for a senior coaching job at a club with a massive following available, talks with assistant coaches managers, senior coaches managers and ex coaches managers won't be going on.

Whilst Terry is there, there will be a reluctance for people to back stab. Get him out, get instructions to the caretaker to play and develop the kids to showcase some potential.

Also if Campbell or any other of our coaches want the head job full time.....Don't apply to be the caretaker. We want development for our future, not anything else for this wasted already season.

I've been away in London for four weeks with no access to the internet. Are we in the finals yet? :hihi

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

Don't agree but well put. I see no point in hoping we get to 0-12 or 2 - 10, before we get rid of the impostor.


As for the media, not bloody likely, this decision will have them all celebrating tonight.

Ok, in a moment of weakness I might admit that a silly, tiny part of me still hopes they can turn this season around. However a lot of me since trade week 2007 has been wondering when we put his head on a pike .

The footy media are generally bandwagon jumping idiots. Richmond loseing will bore them after a while. Plough's postmortem has been written 10 times already this week, they'll find another ambulance to chance.

Nah, he'll get the team up and scrape a few meaningless wins in the latter part of the season when teams put the cue in the rack.

Well we've got to harden up and roll out the panzers once the season is lost and force whoever the coach is to play the kids. Perhaps we can achieve that as well with a lame duck coach as we are with an ambitious assistant coach who sees the job as an audition for next year.

I don't mind who is coaching really as long as Punt Road looks like the Russia in 1942.

 

[the claw]

i see plain old common sense prevailed. sheesh good to see the club put in place a process and actually follow it thru perhaps there is a pinprick of light there somewhere. now if we can just get them to put in place some good processes when it comes to drafting and list management and they follow them thru no quick fixes.

 

[waiting]

Look in the end i guess they did the right thing(even though early yesterday morning i was quite upset and wanted him removed.)

This way they have their mid season review. If the team is 0-12 and nothing has changed then by all means announce that we will not renew Wallace's contract and start the process at lloking at prospective coaches. I am sure and hope that Gary has implemented as stated a short list, a plan going forward.

What i worry though is that what say does Wallace have in playing players that have let him down and the club in the hope that his fortunes changed to the detriment of the kids?

What affect will this have on the playing group if we are 0-12?

What affect will this have on sponsorship next year?

What affect will this have on membership ?

What will this do in attracting the right man for the job of coach next year?

So many what's................

 

[Freezer]

What affect will this have on the playing group if we are 0-12?

What affect will this have on sponsorship next year?

What affect will this have on membership ?

What will this do in attracting the right man for the job of coach next year?

No reason a new coach, new captain, new leadership group, new broom to sweep through the oldies, won't generate serious optimism again next year. Certainly not to the same extent as this year, but I know a good clean out will have me dipping into the pockets again.

I wanted Wallace gone after the Melbourne game, but on reflection and after the board announced their decision not to do anything until mid-year, I've come around to the Board's way of thinking. I think they've done the right thing. We know Wallace won't be around next year but no point it sacking him at this point in time.

The rug will be pulled from under a lot of opposition supporters and media people now that we've shown we, as a club, aren't gonna react to media generated hysteria.

It shows good, positive management and I commend the Board for it.

 

[tigerlee]

I think the board did the right thing. My concern though is not about Wallace now - but the younger players we have such as Cotchin, Lids etc.... will they want a change of clubs some time soon? They may see this club as going nowhere and having a bad culture and want out. How will we keep them interested in our club, knowing full well that they never supported the Tigers to begin with. There is no loyalty. I am worried we may lose some in their search for success. Success is something we cannot offer and possibly not for a few years to come yet.

 

[mb64]

The board should have endorsed Wallace for the rest of the season but instead skirted around the issue & did nothing.

 

[Tiger Mick]

It's pretty hard for a dumping by a semi due to the restricted space and the bollards. Such an action will make us hit front page, I hope this is rumour is just crap.

The semi Driver with the Manure got the message that Wallace is safe until Mid Season, as decided by the Board. He apparently has driven back to hook on a BW and will be dumping a new and bigger load on Punt Road any time.