At the end of the day you can't win a flag without a few 30+ goalkickers in the team. And he's one of the only ones we've got.
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Exactly TB. Nick Davis isn't the best tackler in the world but he's there for his goal kicking and so is Pets. I'm the first to admit, I actually dont mind Pettifer. I am super confident when he's kicking for goal, and he is starting to show confidence in his own ability. I doubted him, but he proved me wrong last season. I hope he continues to develop, and doesn't turn backwards again like Tivers.
We cant have 18 Tuck's running out around there. Pettifer adds to our mix nicely.
We cant have 18 Tuck's running out around there. Pettifer adds to our mix nicely.
BalmyArmy said:
Good post JarmyParty :clap. And go hard Lambsy - is there a better supporter for young Kane! ;D
an accurate and concise summary madcow.how any feral could think pettrified is hard at it is beyond reason and the excuses being made for his inadequacies though not unexpected are down right laughable.one really does feel sorry for the poor poor deluded fools.CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
I'm not a darksider these days, during the Frawley era yes I was a darksider. Right now however I must draw a line in the sand when it comes to Pettifer. He has plenty of talent but no guts. It makes me ill when I see this guy shirk a contest.
Show some pride for the jumper you wear Kayne.
Repect is something you earn and not something you command.
Prove me wrong PLEASE!
Show some pride for the jumper you wear Kayne.
Repect is something you earn and not something you command.
Prove me wrong PLEASE!
the claw said:
The above (other than my input) are prime examples of self delusion. An observation of why Pettifer lacks defensive intensity is not an excuse. I didn't justify it, I said it is a flaw in his game, but I believe it is a flaw which can be corrected. We are also not privvy to coaches instructions and whether a coach will always want specified players on the outskirts of packs. (see Sydney this year or Kangas in their heyday) Pettifer is a top class finisher and it makes sense to me that you get him into some space so that he can use his foot and finishing skills. Pity Claw ,that he has to sacrifice his hard man game to fit in with the team plan
Pettifer is an important player. If one remembers the old melbourne tigers they had an outside perimeter shooter in Andrew Gaze and a take it to the basket and plonk yourself in the arc player in Bradtke. Players ran screens to get Andrew free to get a shot and Bradtke did the bullocking work rebounding and blocking. Bradtke is probably the 'harder' man but so what. Each is valuable to teh team. Also Gaze and Bradtke could have swapped roles but it wouldn't make much sense - you play to your strengths not weaknesses.
I hope and expect that Pettifer improves as a player and knowing when and how to effectively defend is one of those areas of improvement.
PS Claw, in all honesty you must be encouraged to see Pettifer showing a bit of grunt in training to go with his 'elite' foot skills which complement his 'elite' inside 50 delivery ability and goal kicking ability demonstrated in the 2005 season!! :cutelaugh
jb03 said:
well then ...isn't that appropriate when discussing the tiges in the last 20 years?
Wouldn't really say that Bradtke and Gaze were underachievers though would you. Gaze in particular with modest athletic ability ends up with two NBL titles, NBA championship ring, college grand final with Seton Hall, a squillion Boomer and olympic appearances and a bazillion MVP's while averaging over 30 points a game in his godzilla like career.
lamb22 said:
I made no individual reference. I said the Melbourne Tigers were the Biggest underachieving sports team in the history of Australian sport.
I note in interest that the Tigers have struggled this year after the departure of Gaze, Bradtke and Copeland and that Brisbane have really kicked on with recruiting two of the aforementioned three.
jb03 said:
Brisbane's mediocre rise might have more to do with boy called Bobby
Still it's great to see your versatility JohnBoy ;DOn the money again RackofLamb - some players are for all parts, while others have to stay with a coach's instruction. Don't think Petty is soft in the full sense of the word, just lacks the confidence and belief in that part of his game - and the boxing is a good way to find you can at least mix it when when it's a fair one-on-one contest. From little things...big things grow, da, dada, dada, da. ;D
clutching at straws comparing basketballers to footballers and pettrified to gaze. gaze was a well rounded player who was very good both defensively and offensively over a long period of time at his chosen sport. pettrified well hes just plain *smile* weak.actually when defending kane rather than use basketball as some pathetic excuse for the dud you would be better of using netball. kane would be right at home pitting his strength against the females in a non contact game although i still think he would get beaten if a bit of pressure was applied.lamb22 said:the claw said:
The above (other than my input) are prime examples of self delusion. An observation of why Pettifer lacks defensive intensity is not an excuse. I didn't justify it, I said it is a flaw in his game, but I believe it is a flaw which can be corrected. We are also not privvy to coaches instructions and whether a coach will always want specified players on the outskirts of packs. (see Sydney this year or Kangas in their heyday) Pettifer is a top class finisher and it makes sense to me that you get him into some space so that he can use his foot and finishing skills. Pity Claw ,that he has to sacrifice his hard man game to fit in with the team plan
Pettifer is an important player. If one remembers the old melbourne tigers they had an outside perimeter shooter in Andrew Gaze and a take it to the basket and plonk yourself in the arc player in Bradtke. Players ran screens to get Andrew free to get a shot and Bradtke did the bullocking work rebounding and blocking. Bradtke is probably the 'harder' man but so what. Each is valuable to teh team. Also Gaze and Bradtke could have swapped roles but it wouldn't make much sense - you play to your strengths not weaknesses.
I hope and expect that Pettifer improves as a player and knowing when and how to effectively defend is one of those areas of improvement.
PS Claw, in all honesty you must be encouraged to see Pettifer showing a bit of grunt in training to go with his 'elite' foot skills which complement his 'elite' inside 50 delivery ability and goal kicking ability demonstrated in the 2005 season!! :cutelaugh
Sorry claw,whilst i dont mind andrew gaze (im an ex nth melb giants fan) to say he was VERY GOOD defensively is stretching it a bit.
Drewey himself often mentions this was one area he could have been better...(not that he really needed to be,a bit like saying peter hudson had no defencive skills)
Drewey himself often mentions this was one area he could have been better...(not that he really needed to be,a bit like saying peter hudson had no defencive skills)