Training Today - 10/05/06

[Ian4]

Do people not understand how a knee reco can really impede your ability to regain the confidence needed to play this game? Or any other physical sports for that matter.

Absolute rubbish that time is running out.

if the season ended now rodan's career at tigerland would be over. he's got 16 weeks to get another contract.

 

[Knighter]

I think you've lost or are missing the plot here Missing33.

When has Rodan ever been a consistant performer?

Lets face facts, at the end of this season hard decisions will need to be made, will his performance based contract protect him? I never said I wanted Rodan to go, in fact I'm a fan of Rodan and if you had read another post of mine today you will see that I was hoping he would come to the seniors this week. However the reality is that he needs to put some scores on the board if he wants to stay on the list long term. Your an idiot if you believe otherwise! Let me remind you of the Mark Dragicevic situation. I know more about the Rodan situation then you realise my friend, he is known for watching the play rather then making the play (spectating), just ask our coaching staff. Rodan certainley has the ability to play AFL but he himself has to show some form to warrant his position on the list.

Todays football takes more then just the occassional flashy baulk every now and then. You have to win the ball, and more importantly win a contest on a regular basis. Rodan is struggling to do either at Coburg VFL level.

Ask yourself this, why was he put on a performance based contract?

Let's do a comparison for Miller and Wallace at the end of this season.

Roach - Showed some great form at Coburg, won plenty of the ball, won plenty of contests. Only a 21 year old.

V

Rodan - poor form at Coburg, struggling to recapture any of his best football prior to his Knee reco. Should be at his peak as a 23 year old (2 years older then Roach).


Who would you choose?

I don't give a fat rats how much you know my friend. The fact of the matter is you don't usually waltz back into football and pick up with the confidence where you left off after a knee reco.

Whether Rodan is capable of playing at the top level isn't important in the context of my comment and if he goes he goes.

Please forgive my impudent nature, I had no idea you were so in the know.

I'm so embarrassed.

 

[schnipper]

I think you've lost or are missing the plot here Missing33.

When has Rodan ever been a consistant performer?

Lets face facts, at the end of this season hard decisions will need to be made, will his performance based contract protect him? I never said I wanted Rodan to go, in fact I'm a fan of Rodan and if you had read another post of mine today you will see that I was hoping he would come to the seniors this week. However the reality is that he needs to put some scores on the board if he wants to stay on the list long term. Your an idiot if you believe otherwise! Let me remind you of the Mark Dragicevic situation. I know more about the Rodan situation then you realise my friend, he is known for watching the play rather then making the play (spectating), just ask our coaching staff. Rodan certainley has the ability to play AFL but he himself has to show some form to warrant his position on the list.

Todays football takes more then just the occassional flashy baulk every now and then. You have to win the ball, and more importantly win a contest on a regular basis. Rodan is struggling to do either at Coburg VFL level. 

Ask yourself this, why was he put on a performance based contract?

Let's do a comparison for Miller and Wallace at the end of this season.

Roach - Showed some great form at Coburg, won plenty of the ball, won plenty of contests. Only a 21 year old.

V

Rodan - poor form at Coburg, struggling to recapture any of his best football prior to his Knee reco. Should be at his peak as a 23 year old (2 years older then Roach).


Who would you choose?

I don't give a fat rats how much you know my friend. The fact of the matter is you don't usually waltz back into football and pick up with the confidence where you left off after a knee reco.

Whether Rodan is capable of playing at the top level isn't important in the context of my comment and if he goes he goes.

Please forgive my impudent nature, I had no idea you were so in the know.

I'm so embarrassed.

could not have said it better myself.

well done :clap :clap :clap he needs 

 

[AngryAnt]

I don't give a fat rats how much you know my friend. The fact of the matter is you don't usually waltz back into football and pick up with the confidence where you left off after a knee reco.

Whether Rodan is capable of playing at the top level isn't important in the context of my comment and if he goes he goes.

Please forgive my impudent nature, I had no idea you were so in the know.

I'm so embarrassed.

Problem with that argument is that Roden had not shown much in the years before his knee went - apparently he was on fire in the preseason but that don't mean much in the overall scheme of things. A couple of cameo runs and balks a game is not enough.

Like CT said - Rodan is in serious danger of being overtaken by younger and better performers.

 

[crackertiger]

Calm down

I'm simply saying Missing33, Rodan is no Nathan Brown and the club will not wait forever in case his potential might come one day. He needs to start performing just like the other 37 players on the list have to.

That excludes N.Brown, who will be given time to find his previous outstanding form.  

Live for today D-Rod, and stick right to me!

I would be happy to see him playing seniors in a crumbing forward pocket role. He is an outstanding young man David Rodan.

 

[Disco08]

if the season ended now rodan's career at tigerland would be over. he's got 16 weeks to get another contract.

Succinct and accurate Ian, you're a breath of fresh air.

 

[schnipper]

no bad vibe hear but do you really allow someone 6 weeks to get back to there best after 12 months off with injury i think it's being a little pushy dont you think.

 

[Disco08]

The problem he faces is that this year's draft (according to most experts) has more depth than most before it, so all clubs, including us, will be trying to take advantage by having as many picks as possible.

 

[schnipper]

i agree completely, what im refering to is its only been 6 weeks into his comeback. if he is up to it so be it. the sad part is it does take awhile for the reco victims. sure he wasnt setting the world on fire but hey who was in the final frawley years. it's a bit of a cut throat buisness. especially to be hit with serious injury when your trying to establish yourself with a new coach. in any event in 16 weeks all will be revealed ;D

 

[jb03]

Rodan has been very disappointing. Forget the knee injury, he is playing in the identical fashion that he was prior to the knee injury which unfortunately is not good enough.

 

[JR8]

I thought this thread was about training!!

it seems to have veered off track a little!! :hihi

 

[Tigerfan]

Injury watch

so according to Checkside :clap

Schulz, Moore and Casserly just did laps and kicked and handballed to eachother the whole time.
Browny was doing sprints by himself and then had a few kicks at goal.
Roach did everything until the game type thing they played, then he joined in with Schulz, Moore and Casserley.
Chaffey did all training from what i could see.

and presumably, Thursfield isn't doing much at all but will be right for round 1 2007

According to that, Roach and Chaff may be available sooner than the others

 

[Western Tiger]

Rodan has been very disappointing.  Forget the knee injury, he is playing in the identical fashion that he was prior to the knee injury which unfortunately is not good enough.

Isn't that the whole point of the argument, it takes time to get over a knee reconstruction. It seems to take 2 years to fully get over them ala *smile*.

 

[FightingFury]

Rodan has been very disappointing.  Forget the knee injury, he is playing in the identical fashion that he was prior to the knee injury which unfortunately is not good enough.

Isn't that the whole point of the argument, it takes time to get over a knee reconstruction. It seems to take 2 years to fully get over them ala *smile*.

The point of this arguement is if he has it in him to get a contract renewal.

His form prior to the injury was average,and its only got worse due to injury,but if you believe there's going to be sentiment at seasons end for DRod I'd say your mistaken,unless he shows an enourmous reversal of form.

 

[Redford]

Rodan. As competition is growing for spots, he's finding himself under the pump big time.

 

[lutt]

Rodan signed a 2 year deal so we are stuck with him for 2007.

 

[Western Tiger]

Rodan has been very disappointing.  Forget the knee injury, he is playing in the identical fashion that he was prior to the knee injury which unfortunately is not good enough.

Isn't that the whole point of the argument, it takes time to get over a knee reconstruction. It seems to take 2 years to fully get over them ala *smile*.

The point of this arguement is if he has it in him to get a contract renewal.

His form prior to the injury was average,and its only got worse due to injury,but if you believe there's going to be sentiment at seasons end for DRod I'd say your mistaken,unless he shows an enourmous reversal of form.

Well as he has another 18 months to run on his current contract this gives him plenty of time to prove to the coaching staff, who after all are the only ones who make these decisions, that he is worthy of yet another contract. How about showing a little respect for a bloke who is going through a difficult time instead of the feral attitude of eating our own. And YES before you say it, you are entitled to an opinion just like i am.

 

[Ian4]

Rodan signed a 2 year deal so we are stuck with him for 2007.

you're joking? i knew he signed last year but why would you sign an unproven player on a 2 year deal on the back of a knee reco?

 

[AngryAnt]

Rodan signed a 2 year deal so we are stuck with him for 2007.

you're joking? i knew he signed last year but why would you sign an unproven player on a 2 year deal on the back of a knee reco?

Two year deal performance based.

So on his current performances we ain't payin him much.