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TW says at least 7 changes to R1 team

Phantom said:
checkside said:
Thursfield has a knee injury

Well, we were told he missed the late last season because of a back injury. Hasn't seemed to've done full training since.

Has the knee injury taken over from the back injury, or is he carrying both a back & knee injury?
I dont know, he started doing full training again for a while and then he hurt his knee
 
maverick said:
Phantom said:
maverick said:
You can rest assured that the kids will be out and the veterans back in for Round 1. TW is all about winning now, so he picks the best 22 every week. He obviously values a 'winning culture' over giving the kids experience at the expense of guys who have not and will not take us to the finals.

Once the norm this approach is now unique amoungst sides that clearly dont have the cattle to contend.

So we die halfway through the season again?

With our draw I think the death will be much earlier.

Our First Few weeks are tough but the Run from there Improves. The Lead Up to Finals has many home games against Interstate Teams. We could see the opposite to previous years where we began strong then faded away.
 
TOT70 said:
There would be a fair argument for this.  My guess is Brown will not get through a full season without either tiring badly or sustaining an calf/hammy.  Holding him back long enough to bring him in fresh against opponents who have lost their initial burst of enthusiasm for the new season would make a lot of sense.

Firstly, TOTE thanks for the reference, I should pay more attention to Terry's articles, I'm not sure whether they are starting to bore me or it's just me, I think it's just me. ::)

TOT70, I'm glad that you support the method in my madness, but without a doubt many would disagree.  There is no way in the world that Browny will play 22 games this year.
 
geoffryprettyboy said:
TOT70 said:
There would be a fair argument for this.  My guess is Brown will not get through a full season without either tiring badly or sustaining an calf/hammy.  Holding him back long enough to bring him in fresh against opponents who have lost their initial burst of enthusiasm for the new season would make a lot of sense.

Firstly, TOTE thanks for the reference, I should pay more attention to Terry's articles, I'm not sure whether they are starting to bore me or it's just me, I think it's just me. ::)

TOT70, I'm glad that you support the method in my madness, but without a doubt many would disagree.  There is no way in the world that Browny will play 22 games this year.
Let's just apply the KISS theory here - if his leg is better he plays, if it aint he doesn't.
 
checkside said:
apparently thursfields injury is a medial ligament

Well that's big news.

How long has this been kept a secret?

Medial ligaments take a while. How much damage has been done?

Do you know the projected waiting period?
 
I think we should have a look at our thinking, what is our goal for 2006?

If it is to scrap into the finals then play Browny flat out and don't rotate the guys in the middle and you will see the same result as last year. Johnson and Tuck tired by round 17, our veterans just limping through the final weeks.

IF we are building for the future and trying to make the finals then I think we have to rotate our veterans, pick which guys cannot play 22 games and be at peak condition all year. I know carrying injuries is a part of football but we have to have a better procedure for are aging players who we rely on so heavily.

If we are fully rebuilding simple, play the kids till they are worn out then play the veterans and get upper picks for the super draft of 2006.

I think we are at the second option.
 
checkside said:
apparently thursfields injury is a medial ligament
It is a medial but I saw Wil training the day before the VP game with Cogs and Jon they did a fair bit of running and kicking and Wil was doing that zig zag thing through the cones and didnt seem to be favoring anything so I would guess hes ok, did have knee strapped
 
imlaughing my head off ferals thinkiung we are good enough to cruise early and not win many games and then come home with a wet sail late.ffs if we dont win early and we wont, we certainly wont win late when injuries and our kids tire.without early wins we will be lucky to win 5 for the yr.
the way ferals prattle away on this site anyone would think we had depth well let me tell you ferals we have no depth what so ever. the only way we are going to get it is by playing the kids. so wake up to yourselves and stop pushing for long term duds to get games in front of our kids those duds have not been good enough to in the past and most have shown under wallace they wont be good enough in the future.
 
Phantom said:
I'm misreading things constantly over the last few days.
Must be tiredness, or time for a new set of specs.
or maybe it's just from reading too many posts. if you contributed 6400 odd yourself, imagine how many you must have looked at?

i shudder to look at my own post count. Imagine what else I could achieved?

learnt italian
mastered piano
beaten Deep Blue
written my best seller
 
I agree with Claw, we need to blood these kids during the season. We cannot continue to play the likes of Tivendale just because he is a senior player. If Tivendale was to produce some top form then put him in with a chance for senior selection, otherwise we need to give these kids an oppurtunity to show if they have what it takes. We need to develop talent, not just keep churning out players that are ok for a season or two then fall away.
 
From an outsider's perspective I think you need to move on from Stafford. He isn't going to be around when you guys are stronger, so may as well try to find other avenues to goal now.

Also I dont really think his efforts on the weekend were that of a senior player, a few soft contests etc. I'd prefer to see Hughes get games up forward etc, fast track the young guys.

A little like how we didn't play holland last year so roughead and franklin got games earlier and were ready for footy this year much more than if they hadn't played.
 
We need to play our best 22 from round 1, every week, week in and out.

The best 22 of course, wouldn't have chaffey or tivendale in it, and one or two others.

Phantom said:
maverick said:
You can rest assured that the kids will be out and the veterans back in for Round 1.  TW is all about winning now, so he picks the best 22 every week.  He obviously values a 'winning culture' over giving the kids experience at the expense of guys who have not and will not take us to the finals.  

Once the norm this approach is now unique amoungst sides that clearly dont have the cattle to contend.

So we die halfway through the season again?

I'd certainly hope a guy with Wallace's experience - and the fact we've drafted a hell of a lot of running players - means we'll achieve the best 22 (not necessarily veterans, but best 22) and rotate our players through the midfield. We've relied on too few for too long. Certainly the indicators from preseason have been that we are trying to get guys up and ready to support Cogs, Johnson, Tucky etc in the midfield, so there's no reason we should die halfway through the season again.

If we end up doing the same thing as last year, and the year before that and.....you know the story....it means that Wallace would have managed and coached the team poorly this year. I think he's too motivated, to ego driven and above all else, too smart to keep on putting the same old mouse in the same old spinning wheel.

The winning culture will start with guys like tucky and cogs getting a break and having some TALENTED (something tiva and chaff aren't - they're workmen) guys to replace them during a game.