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Tyrone Vickery

He might just have to go in the ruck for longer periods so he can get himself in the game- give him the feel of the game
 
Given that Ty and Jack formed such an effective forward duo last year, it’s little wonder opposition analysis would have focussed on how to stop them. Obstruct Jacks’ line as much as possible and get body on him seems to be the go too for clubs played so far, while the most effective way of playing Ty for a shorter backman – and let’s face it, none are 200cm+ - is to continually drive the knees , feet, elbows into unprotected areas – ribs, kidneys, quads etc- in the ‘marking contest’. And that seems to be the crux of the situation. They’re using marginal tactics to affect the spoil, rather than contest the mark. Going in to the Carlton game, all the talk was of Richmonds’ superiority in the forward line , given the under manned Carlton defence. Carlton didn’t try to out mark the Tigers, they continually went, not only the spoil, but also the man. Laidler in particular. Jamison is an even better exponent of this form of defending, he takes the leading forwards hips out almost every time. John Donehue could be influencing this.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/revealed-carltons-lethal-weapon/story-e6frf9jf-1226076745349

This is going to take a toll on a young maturing forward. Not only physically, but mentally also. but we knew this extra attention was going to come this year.
Add to this a few mitigating circumstances
– a corky on his jumping leg courtesy of Dawson against Freo
_ a bit of a niggle in the shoulder pre-season
_ Some poor delivery into the forward line courtesy of a conservative and ultra defensive game plan the club have committed to in our initial “fixture of death”’ rounds, that finds him under long bomb balls into the forward line.

Accordingly, the club will give him the benefit of the doubt regarding form and application, although like the fans, I’m sure their patience is running a little thin. His confidence is down, and his swagger gone. He must, as Dy’ere said, play through this and add to his game by doing so.
 
Eat the rich said:
John Donehue could be influencing this.

I train at Donehue's gym in Chaddy. The basic tactics you learn when in the begginers class are all about grappling, control of your opponents body and takedowns. Im not suprised that there is an emphasis on tackling and opponent maneouvering at Carlton given what i've seen.

Absolutley not saying this is a bad thing - i love my gym and the MMA program. Just wish John was a Richmond supporter instead ;-)
 
Looks like he is carrying some form of shoulder injury. A shadow of last years model. Looked like he aggravated the injury again today.
 
We cant carry an out of sorts Vickery , an unfit Riewoldt and Miller in the same forward line
Its time to drop Vickery and put Derricxk or Elton in his place
 
btoz_01 said:
We cant carry an out of sorts Vickery , an unfit Riewoldt and Miller in the same forward line
Its time to drop Vickery and put Derricxk or Elton in his place
Elton injured today at Coburg. Not sure if Derickx played and if he did it wasn't very well. Can't see much there with Tom, would be better off playing an out of form Vickery than Tom IMO, it would probably be about the same output.
 
Looked a lot better today. I hope this game was the one to get his season going.
 
TigerForce said:
Didn't do enough for a CHF. He needs to grab big marks Benny Gale style in these games.

Keep in mind he was playing on Glass. He did enough and it was a welcome sight.