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U.S Presidential Election

Scoop

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Nothing surer he runs again and the way The Dems are going, he wins. Any Rhino wins.
 
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Wouldn't be surprised if he dropped dead before the next US election anyway, his body is certainly not a temple. But you can imagine the conspiracy theories it would generate if he did.
 
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tigerman

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"Committee reveals details of investigation into campaign's finances"​

"One of the key details the January 6 committee revealed during Monday's hearing was how Trump's lies about the election turned into millions of dollars in fundraising for Trump's campaign and the political action committee he created after the election."
"The panel made the case that Trump's false claims about voter fraud dovetailed with his campaign's fundraising effort -- resulting in $250 million being donated to Trump and his allies, including solicited requests for an "official election defense fund," that did not exist."

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/13/politics/jan-6-hearing-takeaways-monday/index.html
 

IanG

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Fascinating article. I do kind of object to the language in it describing it as a conspiracy though.

Those in the Australia media adopting the bothsides view might want to read this: "The most important takeaway from Quinn’s research, however, was that engaging with toxic content only made it worse. “When you get attacked, the instinct is to push back, call it out, say, ‘This isn’t true,'” Quinn says. “But the more engagement something gets, the more the platforms boost it. The algorithm reads that as, ‘Oh, this is popular; people want more of it.'”

Also the parts about not protesting after the attempted coup which might turn violent and give Trump a pretext are insightful: "Podhorzer credits the activists for their restraint. “They had spent so much time getting ready to hit the streets on Wednesday. But they did it,” he says. “Wednesday through Friday, there was not a single Antifa vs. Proud Boys incident like everyone was expecting. And when that didn’t materialize, I don’t think the Trump campaign had a backup plan.” and this "Activists reoriented the Protect the Results protests toward a weekend of celebration. “Counter their disinfo with our confidence & get ready to celebrate,” read the messaging guidance Shenker-Osorio presented to the liberal alliance on Friday, Nov. 6. “Declare and fortify our win. Vibe: confident, forward-looking, unified–NOT passive, anxious.” The voters, not the candidates, would be the protagonists of the story."
 
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I hope they both get reamed.


"A judge presiding in the defamation lawsuit against Fox News by Dominion Voting Systems ruled this week that the TV channel’s parent company, Fox Corp, can be included in the suit, broadening the possible legal exposure to the highest ranks of the Fox media empire.

The voting machine maker had argued that Fox Corp. should also be part of the litigation because its two most senior executives, Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch, played “a direct role in participating in, approving and controlling” statements that fed false perceptions of voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election.

In a decision, Judge Eric M. Davis of Delaware Superior Court said Dominion had “adequately pleaded” facts supporting its claim that Fox Corp. was “directly liable” for what Fox News put on the air. He reasoned that the Murdochs were widely known to have a hand in shaping Fox News coverage. Davis also said it was reasonable to infer that Fox Corp. had “participated in the creation and publication of Fox News’ defamatory statements.”


 
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jus a month after 19 elementary school kids and two of their teachers were murdered, the US Supreme Court (which has a conservative majority) decides to strike down a New York law which will now allow more people to legally carry firearms in public.

"The decision follows recent mass shootings and is expected to ultimately allow more people to legally carry guns on the streets of the nation's largest cities — including New York, Los Angeles and Boston — as well as elsewhere."

That joint is cooked


 
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tigerman

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jus a month after 19 elementary school kids and two of their teachers were murdered, the US Supreme Court (which has a conservative majority) decides to strike down a New York law which will now allow more people to legally carry firearms in public.

"The decision follows recent mass shootings and is expected to ultimately allow more people to legally carry guns on the streets of the nation's largest cities — including New York, Los Angeles and Boston — as well as elsewhere."

That joint is cooked


Unbelievable, they're tapped in the head.
 

tigertim

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jus a month after 19 elementary school kids and two of their teachers were murdered, the US Supreme Court (which has a conservative majority) decides to strike down a New York law which will now allow more people to legally carry firearms in public.

"The decision follows recent mass shootings and is expected to ultimately allow more people to legally carry guns on the streets of the nation's largest cities — including New York, Los Angeles and Boston — as well as elsewhere."

That joint is cooked


It’s been oft said but if they didn’t fix their gun laws after Sandy Hook they’ll never fix them. And they won’t.
 
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jus a month after 19 elementary school kids and two of their teachers were murdered, the US Supreme Court (which has a conservative majority) decides to strike down a New York law which will now allow more people to legally carry firearms in public.

"The decision follows recent mass shootings and is expected to ultimately allow more people to legally carry guns on the streets of the nation's largest cities — including New York, Los Angeles and Boston — as well as elsewhere."

That joint is cooked


Unbelievable, they're tapped in the head.
It’s been oft said but if they didn’t fix their gun laws after Sandy Hook they’ll never fix them. And they won’t.
Was going to say, let them annihilate themselves. Unfortunately though, it’s usually the innocents who get slaughtered. The ones who don’t have a say
 

Panthera Tigris

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Waiting for the NRA and their apologists to say the only solution is to arm EVERY school kid
Well naturally it would help their business model. Guns, guns for everyone. Everyone must buy a gun. Why not several guns and accessories - one to go with each outfit. It's well know that US schooling tends to be a fashion parade. "Does this gun and beige holster look good with my new skirt and sweater? Maybe not, might need to go and update my gun and accessories wardrobe."

The only thing they've done poorly in their marketing plan is failing to do what the tech companies do. And that's cynical planned obsolescence, to force people to keep buying updated items. Guns tend to work forever if looked after.
 

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Well naturally it would help their business model. Guns, guns for everyone. Everyone must buy a gun. Why not several guns and accessories - one to go with each outfit. It's well know that US schooling tends to be a fashion parade. "Does this gun and beige holster look good with my new skirt and sweater? Maybe not, might need to go and update my gun and accessories wardrobe."

The only thing they've done poorly in their marketing plan is failing to do what the tech companies do. And that's cynical planned obsolescence, to force people to keep buying updated items. Guns tend to work forever if looked after.
I lived there for six years. It’s so normalised that when you go to the local target (Walmart) there is a whole gun ammo and bow section. And as you say you can get it with pink bling if you want. Just like getting a different cover for your phone. Would be a seismic cultural shift for meaningful change. Not sure any would have the political will and stamina to make it happen.
 

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The other stuff happening now is the Jan 6 House Committee - pretty damning testimony that Trump and his cronies really did try to subvert the election result in a myriad of ways. Nixon resigned for much, much less.

But in today's politics people don't care, and most are more concerned with inflation and other day to day problems.
 

DavidSSS

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jus a month after 19 elementary school kids and two of their teachers were murdered, the US Supreme Court (which has a conservative majority) decides to strike down a New York law which will now allow more people to legally carry firearms in public.

"The decision follows recent mass shootings and is expected to ultimately allow more people to legally carry guns on the streets of the nation's largest cities — including New York, Los Angeles and Boston — as well as elsewhere."

That joint is cooked



They didn't just overturn the law, this is a law which has been in place for about 100 years. In 100 years this law was deemed acceptable and either not challenged or, if it was challenged, the law stood up.

The overturned law is a gun regulation.

What was that bit in the second amendment about a "well regulated militia"?

What the Supreme Court have done is a pure ideological decision which flies in the face of the wording in the constitution.

The Dems should never have let the last Supreme Court justice through the Senate confirmation, they should have postponed the vote or fillibustered it into oblivion. The Supreme Court is f*cked for decades with the 6-3 numbers which are now on the bench. Expect Roe v Wade to be overturned this year.

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They’ve totally lost their way. Beholdent to red neck, religious, right wing nutters all over the place. It’s not impossible if this continues, that in time, a number of progressive states eg New York, California, Massachusetts and co create a cessation from the Union.