It happens all the time. I’m continually yelling at the tv ‘but he dropped the ball!’
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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!
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Held the tackle way to long after the ball had spilled free. Ignore the fact that the first free kick for dropping the ball was obviously missed as umpires are allowed to make mistakes. Maggot got the second call right.
Just standing in for TBR by the way, I'm pretty sure he's off on a holiday at the moment.
Way too long? Not even 2 seconds in a 180deg turn from what I saw. The flog was standing and watching in super slow mode.
Yep I think TBR's playing nude golf in Adelayde on his way across to the Nullabor
I think you're allowed to drop the ball if you haven't had prior. If so, Saad'a free kick may be defendable.
I see the dropping trend as players taking advantage of a loophole that goes against the spirit of the rule.
If a player has time to decide if they'll drop the ball, doesn't this inherently mean they've had a prior opportunity to take action?
I see the dropping trend as players taking advantage of a loophole that goes against the spirit of the rule.
If a player has time to decide if they'll drop the ball, doesn't this inherently mean they've had a prior opportunity to take action?
I would have thought you would have to dispose of the ball legally at all times. Dropping the ball, like throwing the ball is not legal. If the ball gets knocked out and you haven't had prior, then play on. Get tackled with prior opp and the ball gets knocked out, holding the ball.
No, that is not correct, the relevant rule reads:
If no prior, the player must attempt to dispose of the ball correctly (the difference here is that with no prior opportunity the player is excused for not disposing correctly as long as they attempt to do so). Dropping the ball is not an attempt at correct disposal, it is execution of incorrect disposal.
The silly thing is that if you drop the ball and throw your foot at it that is generally an attempt at correct disposal.
The even sillier thing is that players drop the ball without swinging a leg at it or anything else and get away with it.
DS
I am glad you tried to explain that rule - it is written in some semi legal gobbledygook so that no one really knows what is being instructed - so you can basically interpret it as you want.
Ah but the rules aren’t for the players David. Deliberate grey areas and double speak so the buffoons with the whistles can make their own interpretations.
So even when they’re wrong, they’re right. Regardless of what everyone who knows the game can see for themselves
afl is corruption personified, the umpires don’t care about fairness or being correct. Manipulation at its finest. Like the use of the ARC,it’s on a whim.
They could add 'no prior' to the holding the man rule.
Sometimes, tacklers have no prior opportunity to let go of an otherwise legal tackle.
A legal tackle should never instantly become illegal as a consequence of that legal tackle.
Sometimes, tacklers have no prior opportunity to let go of an otherwise legal tackle.
A legal tackle should never instantly become illegal as a consequence of that legal tackle.
Players can't point to the scoreboard replay otherwise it's dissent. As precious as you get.
Is TBR on Twitter as “Has the umpire made a bad decision “?
Carlton kicked 8 goals.
Every time we looked like tearing the game wide open, the umpire would pluck a free kick to Carlton.
The stand out free kick of the night is the 3rd qtr.
We have just kicked 3 in a row.
Carlton *smile* it up on the wing/half forward. A Carlton player drops the ball in the tackle, umpire calls play on, Cerra gets caught in the next passage of play, only to release the ball. Then the dumb *smile* blows HOLDING THE MAN.
from the result Carlton kick a goal. Still in the game.
The worse one was Nakas get held directly in front of the umpires 30 out. And the umpire swallows the whistle.
It was typical Richmond umpiring.
Then the next night, tottaly different story, the Collingwood supporters would call on a free kick and the turds would oblige. Out of all the teams in the comp them and Brisbane and Melbourne have a extra player on the ground. No wonder McCrae looks so good with such a average team.
That's the reason Scott hates playing at the G, the old Codgers aren't loud enough
Every time we looked like tearing the game wide open, the umpire would pluck a free kick to Carlton.
The stand out free kick of the night is the 3rd qtr.
We have just kicked 3 in a row.
Carlton *smile* it up on the wing/half forward. A Carlton player drops the ball in the tackle, umpire calls play on, Cerra gets caught in the next passage of play, only to release the ball. Then the dumb *smile* blows HOLDING THE MAN.
from the result Carlton kick a goal. Still in the game.
The worse one was Nakas get held directly in front of the umpires 30 out. And the umpire swallows the whistle.
It was typical Richmond umpiring.
Then the next night, tottaly different story, the Collingwood supporters would call on a free kick and the turds would oblige. Out of all the teams in the comp them and Brisbane and Melbourne have a extra player on the ground. No wonder McCrae looks so good with such a average team.
That's the reason Scott hates playing at the G, the old Codgers aren't loud enough
Get used to it.
It will be the same as every other year, frees for, in favour of the opposition.
Isn't dropping the ball when you're being tackled incorrect disposal ?
Edit. Already answered cheers.
I'm OK with it. It is dissent by definition, and it always looks ridiculous. Do they think the ump will change their mind?
I'm a big critic of umpiring, but there are things I wish they would be more consistently hard on, and they would disappear overnight. Throws, if it looks like a throw, pay a throw. I do not give a stuff if the commentators or supporters whinge because he might have got a slightly brushed a finger across the ball. Ump should not be thinking hmmm, looked like a throw, but maybe that might have kind-of been almost a handball. If it looks like a throw, just pay a throw.
Late hits or grabs, player not involved in marking contest arriving late and making contact that in any way impedes play. Just pay a 50, consistently, and it disappears in a fortnight, game flows, rules are applied, everybody wins. It might look a bit tiggy touchwood at times, I don't care, not involved in contest, you cannot in any way shape or form impede player. Thats the rule, and thats how it should be in accordance with the principles of the game. ATM they randomly pay 1 in 10 that should be paid. Just pay it. What is so hard?
That is the mistake right there. A wrong call shouldn't be accepted every time an umpire makes a mistake. With all the training they go through, they should develop enough skill to have clear vision when calling a free. Other sports have umpire/ref calls reviewed, but we don't, and I suppose we can't otherwise our game will become Americanised.
As for my post on that dissent rubbish, a player is just asking a question, not 'abusing' an umpire. It's a childish, ridiculous rule which further distances the respect between players and umps.
