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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

Bullarto Tiger

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Bullarto Tiger

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I've never been one for umpire bashing ... but there is little doubt that the standard of umpiring at AFL level is deteriorating.
It seems that umpiring across the footy community is in decline.
No wonder the AFl is wanting to get tougher on transgressions against/on umpires.
The level of abuse across footy competitions is getting beyond a pale.
No wonder people are shunning the idea of donning the whites and blowing a whistle. Not worth the grief that comes with it.
 
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I've never been one for umpire bashing ... but there is little doubt that the standard of umpiring at AFL level is deteriorating.
It seems that umpiring across the footy community is in decline.
No wonder the AFl is wanting to get tougher on transgressions against/on umpires.
The level of abuse across footy competitions is getting beyond a pale.
No wonder people are shunning the idea of donning the whites and blowing a whistle. Not worth the grief that comes with it.
Got to feel for the umpires. Shocking has changed the fabric of the game with his continual rule changes.
 
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Bullarto Tiger

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Got to feel for the umpires. Shocking has changed the fabric of the game with his continual rule changes.

Probably the hardest game in the world to umpire/adjudicate. It's one of the reasons I cut umpires a fair bit of slack. But that said, some of the rules/decisions they have to judge and make a decision on in a split second just aren't necessary to be part of their umpiring mandate.
The game is becoming far too complicated.
It's just *smile*' footy.
 
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snags

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I wonder if there's a correlation between tackles laid, contested number or similar that we can benchmark against other similar players. The disparity is extraordinary.

I heard Danger was raising concerns around the quality of the umpiring? Not sure if that is correct AFL news is slow to UAE. If so I'd be sticking my head in if I was him. He may not get away with the throws and flops this weekend.
 
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Bullarto Tiger

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I wonder if there's a correlation between tackles laid, contested number or similar that we can benchmark against other similar players. The disparity is extraordinary.

I heard Danger was raising concerns around the quality of the umpiring? Not sure if that is correct AFL news is slow to UAE. If so I'd be sticking my head in if I was him. He may not get away with the throws and flops this weekend.

Hope it's all going well in UAE, snags
 

Harry

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I've never been one for umpire bashing ... but there is little doubt that the standard of umpiring at AFL level is deteriorating.
It seems that umpiring across the footy community is in decline.
No wonder the AFl is wanting to get tougher on transgressions against/on umpires.
The level of abuse across footy competitions is getting beyond a pale.
No wonder people are shunning the idea of donning the whites and blowing a whistle. Not worth the grief that comes with it.
They should be full time professionals getting paid good money. We're one of the only professional competitions in the world where the umps/refs are part timers. Pay them well then you'll have people queuing up for a job and you can pick the best and develop them through properly funded academies. This way you can delist the duds and bring in replacements every year like the players. The AFL *smile* money up the wall yet pay peanuts for umpires which is one of the biggest areas of the game that needs improving.
 
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snags

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Hope it's all going well in UAE, snags
All good buddy. Summer is gone so we can expect perfect weather for the next 6 months down from a hellish average of 45degC. We didn't peak much over 50 this year which is good. Missing home but with covid it doesn't look like it will be easy to get back there in the next 6 months. It's been over 2 years already.
 

snags

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They should be full time professionals getting paid good money. We're one of the only professional competitions in the world where the umps/refs are part timers. Pay them well then you'll have people queuing up for a job and you can pick the best and develop them through properly funded academies. This way you can delist the duds and bring in replacements every year like the players. The AFL *smile* money up the wall yet pay peanuts for umpires which is one of the biggest areas of the game that needs improving.
Also simplify/consolidate the rules and clarify interpretations so they don't change week to week. How do you train your muscle to instinctively make calls when the rules are constantly being tweaked. It must be a nightmare for them. Also it would be nice if the umpire dept was accessible with the weekend's decisions discussed in an open manner.
 
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Bullarto Tiger

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All good buddy. Summer is gone so we can expect perfect weather for the next 6 months down from a hellish average of 45degC. We didn't peak much over 50 this year which is good. Missing home but with covid it doesn't look like it will be easy to get back there in the next 6 months. It's been over 2 years already.

Good to hear, snags.
You MUST be looking forward to the cooler weather.
Not sure how you can stand plus forty degrees on a daily basis. Would fry my brain.
Hope you can get back home sooner than you think/expect.
Good luck with everything.
 
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Good to hear, snags.
You MUST be looking forward to the cooler weather.
Not sure how you can stand plus forty degrees on a daily basis. Would fry my brain.
Hope you can get back home sooner than you think/expect.
Good luck with everything.
Watching Giants get beaten by the umps. Pulled out 4 frees out of the air for the Pussies. The fix is on !
 
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btoz_01

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Does Wankafield ever handball umps just allowing cats to throw the ball
Free to Rohan for chopping arms was bs
 

zippadeee

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Standard of umpiring keeps getting worse.
Because they are protected.
We aren't allowed to say a bad word about them.
As long as the continue to get protected at this level. They will continue to influence games.
And we have no chance.
You want to watch a game with the 3 umpires best on ground.
Watch the Richmond Sydney game.
We were playing on our home ground. They paid everything against us, they paid everything to them.
The mark to Nakas not paid l should've been a 50.
They slide in by Rampe and him knocking out Flappers.
The free kicks either side of half time.
The gutless media is to blame.
You constantly hear them reference throws, push in the backs etc but as soon as the siren has gone. Silence Crickets Zitch.
Nothing.
Show the *smile* ups by the umpires.
Show why Henderson was paid holding free kick. Why weren't the Dangerfield throws shown??
Gilligan has single handily destroyed the game.
Typical Stkilda fkstick
 
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Mycotchinrules

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I just thought "I wonder if it's just us that thinks like this?"

As statistically we get reamed year in, year out.

So had a look at Twitter and nope, it's lit up with ALL supporters and they are all saying the same thing: umpiring is destroying the game
 
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mrposhman

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I just thought "I wonder if it's just us that thinks like this?"

As statistically we get reamed year in, year out.

So had a look at Twitter and nope, it's lit up with ALL supporters and they are all saying the same thing: umpiring is destroying the game

and then you look further as to "why is umpiring ruining the game", and its because of the garbage rules that the AFL and in particular the man "who saved football" Steve Shocking has introduced. The standard of umpiring has declined significantly since he took up that position and thats due to all the grey rules they have introduced. Makes it bloody hard for the umpires as practically every decision can be ruled at least 2 different ways.
 
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