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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!
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disagree.
I watch all levels of lower leagues and the umpiring is routinely dreadful.
the new rules (insufficient attempt, ruck noms, 666 and stand) are an absolute horror show at junior level
I understand it when the umps are getting $50.
but when they are getting $2000, I don't understand it.
Maybe they're struggling with the stand rule, but as someone who goes to countless VFL and TAC cup games, the umpiring across the broader spectrum is infinitely better. They don't get everything right - nobody can - but the bs interpretations and technical over do is far , far less. You don't get anywhere near the angst - especially at TAC Cup games. The AFL is an outright disgrace.
I agree 100% on the final point.
But I regularly LOL at decisions in the QAFL
(I only go in for umpire abuse when they are on $2 grand a game)
but for whatever reason, I agree the umpiring is better at elite U18 level than senior AFL.
All we are after is consistency. Good or bad.
And both ways.
I’m sick and tired of the bad always being our way
And both ways.
I’m sick and tired of the bad always being our way
There are a couple of points made here which are the ones which make this really difficult
1. If we start complaining publicly about umpires now it will be because we are losing. It truly is a no win situation
2. Whenever specific decisions are reviewed it is always about whether that decision is right or wrong but because that is the way the AFL approaches scrutiny it deflects away from the real point that most are making and that is about consistency. It is not always about why was a free kick paid, it is also about why was the same thing not paid consistently through a game.
The situation with Richmond is verified by the stats. In every year since 2017 except one we have been 18th in free kick differential and in that year we were 14th. That statistic continues this year with a 98-142 free kick count. This is a trend based on over 100 games of football, it is not a 3-11 count at halftime of one game like what Jason McCartney was complaining about. Because it is a trend over 5 seasons the club is well within it's rights to ask the AFL and the umpires why this is the case. What is it about Richmond that means we consistently have free kick statistics like this?
Maybe the stats gurus like David King might also like to answer that question ?
1. If we start complaining publicly about umpires now it will be because we are losing. It truly is a no win situation
2. Whenever specific decisions are reviewed it is always about whether that decision is right or wrong but because that is the way the AFL approaches scrutiny it deflects away from the real point that most are making and that is about consistency. It is not always about why was a free kick paid, it is also about why was the same thing not paid consistently through a game.
The situation with Richmond is verified by the stats. In every year since 2017 except one we have been 18th in free kick differential and in that year we were 14th. That statistic continues this year with a 98-142 free kick count. This is a trend based on over 100 games of football, it is not a 3-11 count at halftime of one game like what Jason McCartney was complaining about. Because it is a trend over 5 seasons the club is well within it's rights to ask the AFL and the umpires why this is the case. What is it about Richmond that means we consistently have free kick statistics like this?
Maybe the stats gurus like David King might also like to answer that question ?
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Agreed consistency is the key.
Just 1 thing but was so evident as it was literally within the same minute.
4th quarter, Great Southern stand wing, Melbourne kick it out on the full just outside their D50. Can't remember who it was but kick in to Broad, probably about 11-12m, called play on fairly. Broad gets tackled kicks it out on the full. Melbourne kick it in maybe 8m, paid as a mark. Same umpire. How can they get 2 decisions so close to each other, both identical, so wrong??
Just 1 thing but was so evident as it was literally within the same minute.
4th quarter, Great Southern stand wing, Melbourne kick it out on the full just outside their D50. Can't remember who it was but kick in to Broad, probably about 11-12m, called play on fairly. Broad gets tackled kicks it out on the full. Melbourne kick it in maybe 8m, paid as a mark. Same umpire. How can they get 2 decisions so close to each other, both identical, so wrong??
Umpires need retraining into not getting sucked in from players:
throwing themselves forward in a marking contest
shrugging shoulders to get a high tackle
dropping at the knees when being tackled to get an in the back
throwing
and paying “chop of the arms” when the defender has actually punched the ball.
And be retrained to not be so keen to pull out and pay some twiggy touch wood soft free kick.
Oh, and be retrained to not ream Richmond every week....
throwing themselves forward in a marking contest
shrugging shoulders to get a high tackle
dropping at the knees when being tackled to get an in the back
throwing
and paying “chop of the arms” when the defender has actually punched the ball.
And be retrained to not be so keen to pull out and pay some twiggy touch wood soft free kick.
Oh, and be retrained to not ream Richmond every week....
I never noticed him at freo, but ever since he has gone to Brisbane he has become a massive whinging little prick.
Would love to see the free kick differential after 6 rounds. I do know we are minus 44! Would also love to see a table of frees, back, middle and forward or even better goals scored from frees.
I acknowledge it is a tough gig being an umpire but..........just be consistent to all teams can't be that hard can it?
I acknowledge it is a tough gig being an umpire but..........just be consistent to all teams can't be that hard can it?
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/frees.html#2021
This is where I get my info but doesn't break it down to the level you were interested in
Interesting thing is that every year we have won the flag since 1967 we have had a negative free kick differential
The umpiring is an outright disgrace.
It was interesting to hear Brayshaw on Friday night refer not once but a couple of times to the fact that the Bulldogs were throwing the ball and, importantly, state that numerous clubs had complained to the AFL about it several times.
But as always with that *** Hocking, and that dud Richardson as well, its a case of "nothing to see here."
Such a corrupted bs league.
It was interesting to hear Brayshaw on Friday night refer not once but a couple of times to the fact that the Bulldogs were throwing the ball and, importantly, state that numerous clubs had complained to the AFL about it several times.
But as always with that *** Hocking, and that dud Richardson as well, its a case of "nothing to see here."
Such a corrupted bs league.
The rules are so open to interpretation that the AFL can look at two identical incidents, but one resulting in a free and one that doesn't, and claim both were the correct decision.
As for us, our clash guernsey is umpire friendly. We need to wear it more often, make it the official Away jumper.
As for us, our clash guernsey is umpire friendly. We need to wear it more often, make it the official Away jumper.
