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Uncontracted players

To all you chubba lovers - would you play him on Roca? Tredrea? Gerig? Thompson? Fevola? Hall? No !! terry knows this and that's why he never plays on the big boys.

So what purpose does he serve?

Do you play him on Milne, Ablett, Farmer, Didak ? No - he'll get slaughtered.

Do you play him as a rebounding Half back? You gotta be joking.

So I ask you chubba lovers - what purpose does he serve?

At least Ray Hall can help out with the bigger forwards.
 
Before this season I would have agreed with that Harry, but prior to injury Kellaway was very good this year.

These are my thoughts..

- He plays well when not asked to take the key forwards and takes the third tall.

- Very reliable mark in a one on one contest, our players often look for him.

- He's got the gonads to go where others won't.(particularly given some of the softer players in our backline).

Worth another season IMO, even if it's as a depth player in light of our weak defence.
 
Harry said:
We had 41 on the list (including Humm and Howat)

Chaff and staff are gone = 39

you can have 40 on list (plus 2 veterans)

IMO we need 6 national draft picks plus a pre-season pick.

Therefore the list needs to be cut to 33. (35 if we put 2 on the veterns list, but this will take up 2 rookie spots.  Assume no one on vet list for now)

Assuming the above - 5 more need to go.

5 from the following (in order of preference) -

Humm - certainty to delist
Gaspar - If we are serious we cannot, should not renew his contract
Tivendale - enough's enough
Kellaway - no value - not a tall back and adds no drive - too old also.
Roach - could not get a game in an ijury riddled team.
Jackson - lacks footy brain
Moore - has had plenty of chances

Rodan - Lucky to escape due to contract

Krakouer - will stay but should look to trade

Don't vigourously disagree with any of that. Would like to see Krak stay another year but wouldn't cry if we got a decent trade. 2 of those 7 wont happen though, but a couple of surprise ones will.
 
Harry said:
To all you chubba lovers - would you play him on Roca? Tredrea? Gerig? Thompson? Fevola? Hall?  No !!  terry knows this and that's why he never plays on the big boys.

So what purpose does he serve?

Do you play him on Milne, Ablett, Farmer, Didak ?  No - he'll get slaughtered.

Do you play him as a rebounding Half back?  You gotta be joking.

So I ask you chubba lovers - what purpose does he serve?

At least Ray Hall can help out with the bigger forwards.

Yes he does not play on the big forwards
but what he does is drop back into their space which is just as important
 
davidrodan said:
Harry said:
To all you chubba lovers - would you play him on Roca? Tredrea? Gerig? Thompson? Fevola? Hall?  No !!  terry knows this and that's why he never plays on the big boys.

So what purpose does he serve?

Do you play him on Milne, Ablett, Farmer, Didak ?  No - he'll get slaughtered.

Do you play him as a rebounding Half back?  You gotta be joking.

So I ask you chubba lovers - what purpose does he serve?

At least Ray Hall can help out with the bigger forwards.

Yes he does not play on the big forwards
but what he does is drop back into their space which is just as important

JBowden and PBowden can play that third tall dropping back into their space role, AND create 100 times more drive than chubba.
 
tigerdave said:
Harry, we just haven't got anyone to replace chubba with at the moment!

And you say that like it's a bad thing Davo! ;) I think he'll be hung on to until after the trade period is resolved
 
tigerdave said:
Harry, we just haven't got anyone to replace chubba with at the moment!

I've just named 2 players that are smarter, more skillful, faster and younger who can easily do his job with greater effect.

Hall and Gaspar, even though being very limited themselves, add more value than Chubba coz at least they can tangle with some of the bigger forwards. I would hold onto these 2 ahead of AK coz they can soetimes do a job on a player. The same cannot be said about chubbs.
 
Harry said:
tigerdave said:
Harry, we just haven't got anyone to replace chubba with at the moment!

I've just named 2 players that are smarter, more skillful, faster and younger who can easily do his job with greater effect.

Can both those players be relied on to put their body on the line like AK?

Joel perhaps but Paddy? No way.
 
pharace said:
tigerdave said:
Harry, we just haven't got anyone to replace chubba with at the moment!

And you say that like it's a bad thing Davo! ;)  I think he'll be hung on to until after the trade period is resolved


No,I love chubba pharace.Players grow another leg when he's playing just through his hardness and fairness at the footy.As far as replacements go, i mean the like's of Mcguane,Thursfield,JON etc. aren't there yet!
 
Tigers of Old said:
Harry said:
tigerdave said:
Harry, we just haven't got anyone to replace chubba with at the moment!

I've just named 2 players that are smarter, more skillful, faster and younger who can easily do his job with greater effect.

Can both those players be relied on to put their body on the line like AK?

Joel perhaps but Paddy? No way.

Too true Tooheys.

I can just see PB's decision whether to run back under a high ball with Gehrig/Hall/Neitz etc bearing down.

Does he run back with his eyes on the ball & put himself in danger by lifting his arms to try adn take the mark & feel the oncoming pack crunch him.

Or turn his back and face the oncoming traffic & pretend he's gunna try n gather any crums that "May" fall his way.

I know what the player doing this role should be doing & I also know the answer that PB would decide.

I'm sure most of you do too.
 
Leysy Days said:
Tigers of Old said:
Harry said:
tigerdave said:
Harry, we just haven't got anyone to replace chubba with at the moment!

I've just named 2 players that are smarter, more skillful, faster and younger who can easily do his job with greater effect.

Can both those players be relied on to put their body on the line like AK?

Joel perhaps but Paddy? No way.

Too true Tooheys.

I can just see PB's decision whether to run back under a high ball with Gehrig/Hall/Neitz etc bearing down.

Does he run back with his eyes on the ball & put himself in danger by lifting his arms to try adn take the mark & feel the oncoming pack crunch him.

Or turn his back and face the oncoming traffic & pretend he's gunna try n gather any crums that "May" fall his way.

I know what the player doing this role should be doing & I also know the answer that PB would decide.

I'm sure most of you do too.

Agreed Leysy, ToO...it was really no surprise to me and I'm sure others that he had a dead set magnificent half playing spare defender and filling every gap 'bravely' against Brisbane who that night had NO power forwards to clean him up.

If Wallace is considering dumping Kellaway because that game convinced him PB can do the same job better, I think we're all in for a long season of watching PB shirk the issue when it counts.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but I doubt it.

I always have recurring visions of Knighter getting steamrolled by Plugger when this topic comes up...ouch! :o
 
AK would back in and fly for the mark everytime.

to see what PB would do. try and get a copy of the game against sydney this year. in the last quarter PB pulled out of a contest for the fear that Barry Hall was coming when in actual fact he wasn't. i remember thinking at the time he was going to be dropped because of it

also on a number of occasions, and you'll all probably remember now that i have mentioned it, PB actually faces the man who is facing the ball and tries to spoil without making contact to the man. it never works, except for in the first quarter against carlton, it worked once
 
Terry's not too concerned about players showing courage and running bravely back into packs. He's more concerned about players haveing the required level of skill, speed and creativity......and rightly so.
 
Harry said:
Terry's not too concerned about players showing courage and running bravely back into packs.  He's more concerned about players haveing the required level of skill, speed and creativity......and rightly so.

if we can get the ball first (Simmo/Knoble - Coughlan Johnson Foley tuck)

then keep the ball (deledio, Roach Tambling, Myer, oakleys, howat) and get if forward

we should mark (schulz, hughes, Limbach jackson Richo pattison)

or crumb it (pettifer krakr Brown) and kick a goal

Our rebounding through defence (raines, casserley Polo, hartigan, newman) is pretty good.
 
Harry said:
Terry's not too concerned about players showing courage and running bravely back into packs.  He's more concerned about players haveing the required level of skill, speed and creativity......and rightly so.
But if you are expecting PBo to provide the pressure in the back half in order for us to get possession of the footy, then you are kidding yourself.