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Warnee Splurge

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Khan

Lets Roar in 2004
Dec 17, 2002
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I know that this is not the place but I have vowed not to Post Again on BigFooty due to the number of Eddites lurking there.

A new thread has popped up defending Warnee and one of the posters has dropped the line that the diuretic was used to cover up something that Warnee had taken.

From my memory of the charge it also was along the same lines.

However the physical evidence did not show any steroids only that the diuretic had been taken. Now I am not a lawyer but wouldn't that mean that he should have been found innocent.

I understand that the substance he was taking was banned so he should be suspended. My problem is the constant implications by people that he did do take steroids even though none of the evidence actually proves this. I would think that Shane has a damm good libel case, against a goodly number of the media and in particular one G Healy who keeps stating the steroids as a fact.

Historically I know that Shane had a lot of pressure about his weight mainly from the media and as another fat b. I could understand him taking something in order to loose some of the weight or not to look fat during a TV interview. Hell I have tried some weird "natural" combinations trying to get rid of the excess kilo's. Who knows what was in those?

Now Shane was damm stupid not to check what was in the tablet he got from his mum, or was too dumb to think that he might get checked the next day during the match if he was using steroids.

If it was the later and I knew I was doing something illegal I know I would have made sure I used the quickest masking agent that I could find. I wouldn't have used one that close to a match and the chance of being checked. Using that piece of logic stupidity and the former reason are the most likely.

So now that I have had my rambling I'll say this. After going through the drug thing with Charlie and now Shane. There must be a lot of dumb sportsmen out there.


Lets Roar in 2003

Khan
 
I think Warney was lucky to get off as lightly as he did, and I'm not the least bit surprised he changed his mind about appealing.

We'll never know if he took the diuretic to mask steroid use or not.
He says he didn't, but Warney's honesty has been suspect before.
He lied telling all and sundry, including the team, that he only ever took 1 tablet.
He admitted at his trial he'd taken more than 1.

The fact is the drug he took is a banned substance whether it was used to mask other drugs or not.

Personally I find it hard to believe that only one tablet would aid weight loss too much, and if it did it wouldn't be wise to take it a day before having to stand in the hot sun all day playing top grade sport.
That's just something that doesn't quite ring true to me, but I readily admit I wouldn't have a clue.

There will always be doubt and innuendo over whether he used steroids, but it's more than likely we'll never know.
Makes no difference to me.  Sad as it is for him and Australian cricket he knew the rules.
At least Charlsey came out with a bit of integrity for his honesty.  A *smile* for breaking the rules, but an honest one just the same, ha.

P.S. Khan, I think elite sportspeople would even check the "natural" remedies before they took them if they had any sense.  The stakes are pretty high.


Whoops sorry folks....I think I just found a word that has escaped the swear filter, ha. :-[
 
I am also on blood pressure tablets that have a diruetic and you can see a difference in facial features ie double chins about three to four hours after taking

My only point is there was no proof of steriod taking only the masking agent, That is what he should have been charged with not steriod use. I agree with his suspension and have no problem with that. It is the implications over something that has not been proved.

I admire Charlie for his honesty and believe that he only took it to recover from injury. But he came out gave 100% of the truth and got wiped out completly. By giving him the maximum sentance the AFL guarenteed that no player charged with drug use will ever come out and be honest.

Pesonally I see little difference between steriods being used to recover to pain killers being used so that you can play with a broken finger or injured leg ( remember micky Macgune not being able to run in that match at Vic Park because he couldn't feel his leg)

As I said I just needed to vent my spleen. But thanks for listenning


Lets Roar

Khan
 
Was he actually charged for steroid abuse, I thought it was for taking a prohibited substance?
 
From what I read,

It was something along the line of

"a using a masking agent to disgusie steriod use"
 
Warnie was actually charged with "using a prohibited method", which is regarded as a very serious charge, because it implies that the abuse was for the purposes of masking other substances. Steroid abuse doesn't need to be proven in this case, just that he took something that may have masked steroids.

By the way, we've lost a whole thread - Koalalill's membership value for money thread.
 
Thanks Dean


I'll try to find the article that I read but on that case I admit I was wrong. I however still think that he would have legal case for libel


Just venting on something that has been getting up my goat since it happened.


Khan

p.s hope we can find that other thread.

p.p.s Rosy I should have posted this in the Genereal Talk section . Can you move it ?
 
By the way, we've lost a whole thread - Koalalill's membership value for money thread.
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Actually it was MC24's but I was posting a reply whe it said an error has occured and know I keep getting 2 warnee splurges.

Gee I hope it can be found - it was turning out to be very helpful
 
I think Warne deserved the penalty, but not because of the possibility that he was masking steroids. The reason I think that Warne should be suspended is because he is an indictment to all elite sportsmen/women, and he mocks their struggle. How sad is it that instead of doing some excercise (which is his raison d'etre as a sportsman) to lose weight and increase his value as a sportsman, he took a pill off his mummy to lose some puppy fat. I think he should be banned for life so he can take all the fluid-loss tablets he wants and concentrate on looking good, and he can also do some Jenny Craig commercials and advertise light'n'easy meals. What a waste of talent.
 
Hey Koalalill, maybe if you keep hitting your 'back' button you might get back to your reply, then try to post it again. Just a thought.
 
I know that this is not the place but I have vowed not to Post Again on BigFooty due to the number of Eddites lurking there.
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Quite the contrary Khan, Hopefully this site will be used for a variety of topics and discussions. The more we can share our ideas and thoughts about different things the better imo. :)
 
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