Especially when you consider that Hogan essentially replaced Cameron. Would be somewhat ironic if he kicked a bag this weekend and Cameron has a quiet gameJesse Hogan and Aliir Aliir both proving to be inspired trading decisions. Both played critical roles in finals wins on the weekend. Great list management.
Absolute bullshit. Toby deliberately shoulders him. The giveaway is Toby does not move his gaze or act surprised. Moronic action by Toby and equally moronic post.I don't agree that Toby did anything wrong.
Firstly, he never changed direction and never made any move at the umpire.
Second, eyes were on the ump because he was speaking to him.
Third, what was the umpire doing walking amongst the GWS group who were all heading in the same direction.
The umpire got in the way of the players and in Tobys path.
Green is not obliged to change his own path and walk around him..is he?
No contact initiated by Green. Umpire walked into his path.
But, this is the generation of not being responsible for ones own actions but blaming others for your own error.
Umpires error, not Toby's.
Yep, make the right call on 1 to educate 100. Giving Toby at least 4 weeks sounds like a pretty good message to me. It would only be a bad example if the penalty was excessive like 10+ weeks but the AFL have made it harder for themselves by handing out fines in recent years instead of weeks so there will be reform after this. They need to spell out their definitions better.it is TM, but they'll try it all on ...
yes Tobes will go, but i really hate the 'example' thing, it gets to be like school ...
Toby's brain fades, especially in finals have been going on for years. To call him a bit of a moron is a bit harsh considering we don't know his intellectual capacity! He has to accept personal responsibility for his actions but GWS must take some blame here as well. They must stop excusing his behaviour as "playing on the edge" therefore he might go over the edge now and again. BS. Have they tried giving him the support he has needed through a sports psyche like Emma? Re-directing his anger, not losing focus, staying in the moment, etc. Perhaps it's too late for him now, but it's clear to me he has been let down.You can only conclude that Greene is just a bit of a moron.
Great footballer and I really can't understand why he does these things - bump an umpire, scratch peoples' faces, foot out to mark - just unnecessary when not only is he a great player but he can swing games all by himself.
Hmmmm....not sure why so upset about this.Absolute bullshit. Toby deliberately shoulders him. The giveaway is Toby does not move his gaze or act surprised. Moronic action by Toby and equally moronic post.
Umpires interact with players all the time but amazingly 99.9% of players avoid shoulder bumping them. Incredible.Hmmmm....not sure why so upset about this.
The point I was making was that the umpire was in amongst the GWS group of players as they walked away.
It was not his place to be there !
He was placing himself where contact was a potential problem. Toby should have avoided him but the fault was not only Toby's.
1 Hawks player who got infront of Soldo as he walked away , making contact very likely. Soldo suspended.
2 Umpire tells players where he is backing away after a bounce , to warn them not to get in his way, to avoid contact. If they get in this position and contact is made, the player is guilty, not the umpire.
Point is the umpire made contact much more likely as he was amongst the players as they walked off. Some responsibility is his.
FWIW...the contact was minimal and the apologists amongst us are getting up in arms over nothing.
Yeh its horrible. Dm me if you need food I can get some delivered to youYes. Cannot do anything except go for a walk. Cannot converse with neighbours, have to have grocery delivery when they have goods available.
Thank goodness for PRE and Foxtel to at least have semblance of living.