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WEEK 1 FINALS 2021

pete and tys

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There should never be "examples".
Decisions and penalties must be made to the letter of the rules....nothing else!
Making examples means decisions and penalties are subjective and this means bias and corruption gets a look in.
 
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Sintiger

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Jesse Hogan and Aliir Aliir both proving to be inspired trading decisions. Both played critical roles in finals wins on the weekend. Great list management.
Especially when you consider that Hogan essentially replaced Cameron. Would be somewhat ironic if he kicked a bag this weekend and Cameron has a quiet game
 
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seven

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Essendon Bombers slam fan’s disgusting act following elimination final loss to Western Bulldogs​

The Essendon Bombers have attempted to contact a fan who did something ‘appalling’ following the side’s elimination final loss.
The Essendon Bombers have called out an “appalling” instance of racial abuse directed at forward Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti over the weekend.
In a statement released Monday, the club said it had attempted to contact a fan who made racist comments about McDonald-Tipungwuti on social media following Essendon’s elimination final loss to the Western Bulldogs.
The Bombers said their attempts to contact the individual had been ignored.

“Vilification, racial or otherwise, has absolutely no place in our society. This must stop now, and it starts with all of us in calling out this vile behaviour,” the club’s statement read.

“The Essendon Football Club stands in total solidarity with McDonald-Tipungwuti and will continue its fight against racism.

“It has to stop.”

Bulldogs star Cody Weightman was also targeted with “unsavoury comments” on the weekend, which the Bombers condemned in their statement.

Weightman kicked four goals from four free kicks in his side’s 49-point win.
“It is hurtful, unnecessary, and not in the spirit of our great game,” Essendon’s statement read.

On Monday evening, McDonald-Tipungwuti released a statement of his own on Instagram.

“As a society we should never define anyone by the colour of their skin, religion, race, culture or ability. In Australia we are one people and a diverse community that should be galvanising together instead of ripping each other apart,” McDonald-Tipungwuti he wrote.

“My family and I like many others are separated by distance and Covid restrictions which has made this year very difficult for all. We all feel isolated and we should be using our words to unite us in the face of adversity.”


McDonald-Tipungwuti was one of Essendon’s brightest stars earlier in the season as the club outshone pre-season expectations of Ben Rutten’s first year as senior coach.

The star forward missed the club’s final two regular season games as well as its elimination final, citing personal reasons for his absence.
 
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pete and tys

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Reality is Bombers were about 12th in true standard,so result was as expected.
Above them should have been Tigers, Saints and Eagles and possibly Freo.
So Essendon were poor all year and lost to Dogs who were 4th in reality until AFL helped Lions to overtake them.
Result as would be expected. Nothing to be hung up about...to quote the fab 4.
 

MD Jazz

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I don't agree that Toby did anything wrong.
Firstly, he never changed direction and never made any move at the umpire.
Second, eyes were on the ump because he was speaking to him.
Third, what was the umpire doing walking amongst the GWS group who were all heading in the same direction.

The umpire got in the way of the players and in Tobys path.
Green is not obliged to change his own path and walk around him..is he?

No contact initiated by Green. Umpire walked into his path.

But, this is the generation of not being responsible for ones own actions but blaming others for your own error.
Umpires error, not Toby's.
Absolute bullshit. Toby deliberately shoulders him. The giveaway is Toby does not move his gaze or act surprised. Moronic action by Toby and equally moronic post.
 
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tigermike

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it is TM, but they'll try it all on ...
yes Tobes will go, but i really hate the 'example' thing, it gets to be like school ...
Yep, make the right call on 1 to educate 100. Giving Toby at least 4 weeks sounds like a pretty good message to me. It would only be a bad example if the penalty was excessive like 10+ weeks but the AFL have made it harder for themselves by handing out fines in recent years instead of weeks so there will be reform after this. They need to spell out their definitions better.
 
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tigermike

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You can only conclude that Greene is just a bit of a moron.

Great footballer and I really can't understand why he does these things - bump an umpire, scratch peoples' faces, foot out to mark - just unnecessary when not only is he a great player but he can swing games all by himself.

DS
Toby's brain fades, especially in finals have been going on for years. To call him a bit of a moron is a bit harsh considering we don't know his intellectual capacity! He has to accept personal responsibility for his actions but GWS must take some blame here as well. They must stop excusing his behaviour as "playing on the edge" therefore he might go over the edge now and again. BS. Have they tried giving him the support he has needed through a sports psyche like Emma? Re-directing his anger, not losing focus, staying in the moment, etc. Perhaps it's too late for him now, but it's clear to me he has been let down.
 

zippadeee

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Sydney what a bunch of wankers Duddy, Pappy, And Longmire suck *smile*. See ya back in the bottom 4.
Geelong and Essendon Kryptonite is September,
 
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pete and tys

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Absolute bullshit. Toby deliberately shoulders him. The giveaway is Toby does not move his gaze or act surprised. Moronic action by Toby and equally moronic post.
Hmmmm....not sure why so upset about this.
The point I was making was that the umpire was in amongst the GWS group of players as they walked away.
It was not his place to be there !
He was placing himself where contact was a potential problem. Toby should have avoided him but the fault was not only Toby's.
Similar situations
1 Hawks player who got infront of Soldo as he walked away , making contact very likely. Soldo suspended.

2 Umpire tells players where he is backing away after a bounce , to warn them not to get in his way, to avoid contact. If they get in this position and contact is made, the player is guilty, not the umpire.

Point is the umpire made contact much more likely as he was amongst the players as they walked off. Some responsibility is his.
FWIW...the contact was minimal and the apologists amongst us are getting up in arms over nothing.
 
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graystar1

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Miserable here agree. You in iso like half the town?
Yes. Cannot do anything except go for a walk. Cannot converse with neighbours, have to have grocery delivery when they have goods available.
Thank goodness for PRE and Foxtel to at least have semblance of living.
 
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MD Jazz

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Hmmmm....not sure why so upset about this.
The point I was making was that the umpire was in amongst the GWS group of players as they walked away.
It was not his place to be there !
He was placing himself where contact was a potential problem. Toby should have avoided him but the fault was not only Toby's.
Similar situations
1 Hawks player who got infront of Soldo as he walked away , making contact very likely. Soldo suspended.

2 Umpire tells players where he is backing away after a bounce , to warn them not to get in his way, to avoid contact. If they get in this position and contact is made, the player is guilty, not the umpire.

Point is the umpire made contact much more likely as he was amongst the players as they walked off. Some responsibility is his.
FWIW...the contact was minimal and the apologists amongst us are getting up in arms over nothing.
Umpires interact with players all the time but amazingly 99.9% of players avoid shoulder bumping them. Incredible.

The fault is all Toby's. He's no victim. He's a highly talented footballer. But a recidivist who's had countless people try and help him grow up. No doubt we will read another story from someone outside football who is mentoring him and will tell us what a terrific fellow he is. And leader. That's 2 key finals this leader will miss through self-indulgence? Stupidity? Arrogance? That's not leadership.

Apologists? :rolleyes:
 
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rensman

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Yes. Cannot do anything except go for a walk. Cannot converse with neighbours, have to have grocery delivery when they have goods available.
Thank goodness for PRE and Foxtel to at least have semblance of living.
Yeh its horrible. Dm me if you need food I can get some delivered to you
 
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