He doesn’t like being touched.
After last years probe in the change rooms I can understand why now.
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Goodbye Mabior Chol
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After last years probe in the change rooms I can understand why now.
Bit of the forgotten man Mabior & many have put a line through him. He's had plenty of opportunities to establish himself but hasn't been able to take it. With the likes of CJ & Ryan being now talked about as more viable options.
However I really liked what he showed in the first VFL game & think he's still improving (yes I know he's 24 now).
He's just got so much goddamn raw talent that most can only dream of. Still does the most brilliant thing followed by a brain fart. Maybe he doesn't have what it takes above the shoulders to be an AFL player but it will be a waste of talent if he doesn't make it. If only he had Nank's determination he'd be a superstar. Alas..
However I really liked what he showed in the first VFL game & think he's still improving (yes I know he's 24 now).
He's just got so much goddamn raw talent that most can only dream of. Still does the most brilliant thing followed by a brain fart. Maybe he doesn't have what it takes above the shoulders to be an AFL player but it will be a waste of talent if he doesn't make it. If only he had Nank's determination he'd be a superstar. Alas..
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Does he, or is it just that he moves so smoothly that we're seduced into thinking he can play too.
His first half on Friday looked good, but I don't think he did as much as the game went on. Raw numbers were well in CuJo's favour by the end.
I'm surprised he's lasted this long. He's not a competitive beast. I thought that was our No.1 non-negotiable.
That's exactly it. Many highly skilled players haven't transitioned due to lacking that killer instinct required to make it to the elite level of the competition. I am also surprised he's been on our list this long and surely he's been surpassed now by other exciting talent.
I think everyone knows that Nank does two things that Mabs doesn't, and Mabs has one thing that Nank doesn't.
1. Nank competes until he drop. He takes nothing off the field, it all stays out there. Enough said.
2. Nank consistently operates within his limitations to the absolute best of his ability. He keeps it simple and doesn't over think things. That is not to say he isn't a very good footballer because he is, but I really like the way that he knows what he can do, and he adapts that to any situation.
Mabs, on the other hand, doesn't really do either. But he is the athlete that Nank isn't.
If Mabs can do 1 and 2 for us, he is a best 22 easy. But he just can't seem to be a role player. And I hate to say it, but I think they have tried to keep things simple for him.
We have made some players nobody wanted into more than just AFL capable footballers. Lambert, Baker, Short, Castagna, Broad etc. etc. But I am afraid that I just do not see Mabs getting there.
1. Nank competes until he drop. He takes nothing off the field, it all stays out there. Enough said.
2. Nank consistently operates within his limitations to the absolute best of his ability. He keeps it simple and doesn't over think things. That is not to say he isn't a very good footballer because he is, but I really like the way that he knows what he can do, and he adapts that to any situation.
Mabs, on the other hand, doesn't really do either. But he is the athlete that Nank isn't.
If Mabs can do 1 and 2 for us, he is a best 22 easy. But he just can't seem to be a role player. And I hate to say it, but I think they have tried to keep things simple for him.
We have made some players nobody wanted into more than just AFL capable footballers. Lambert, Baker, Short, Castagna, Broad etc. etc. But I am afraid that I just do not see Mabs getting there.
Really successful big men have an innate, inner mongrel. They lock the physicality, the competition. Even those of average talent can look better than the natural athlete if they have that competitive passion.
Mabs just doesn't have it. You can't coach it into someone. They have it or don't. I think this will be his swansong.
Mabs just doesn't have it. You can't coach it into someone. They have it or don't. I think this will be his swansong.
Yep. Starting to look a lot like our own version of Majak.
Cholly's a superb kick of the ball and a beautifully balanced athletic player. Unfortunately seems to be unable to consistently compete n impose himself on the contests or game, to often just lurking n hovering in the vicinity.
Majak, Aliir, Cholly, Changa, there's some seriously exciting athletic traits in those blokes. So far there's only one who's managed to put enough together to build a decent senior career n still looks to be building.
Apart from the fact that he is a good kick, his athletic traits and lack of desire for the physical contest are really more suited to basketball, not football. We've seen how he struggles to judge the ball flight when a long high kick is sent in his direction but he's fine when it comes to him over a much shorter distance. More evidence that basketball is his sport, or even volleyball, not footy.
All true but you've missed the biggest difference. He doesnt read the flight of a high ball like Nank.
WIthout that (which is largely ingrained) he can have all the athletic traits he wants, but will the lack the ingredient all good big men lack.
Sounds like Corey Ellis, beautifully balanced, can kick but wants to play it on his terms.... Slow
Understand the thinking but unlike Corey I don't think Mabs is slow, more so inconsistent in his efforts.
A couple of efforts on the weekend's round 1 game were typical of his lack of concentration.
He'll take a screamer, then next play turn it over or kick a point.
Drop the easy mark, then pick up the crumbs & snap the goal.
There's no doubt Mabs has oodles of ability but his thinking is lazy & he lacks hunger to finish the job.
He might get away with some of those plays at VFL level but at AFL level that amounts to not good enough.
In the Richmond ones you need to be switched ON the entire game or you don't play.
That's where Chol finds himself for the foreseeable future.
Maybe like Aliir Aliir a change of scenery can spark his interests, get a 4th rounder from GCS or GWS back?
I thought Chol was very average on Friday.
He is kinda the main man now in the ruck, but just had no presence. We looked much more effective when CCJ went on the ball. He did very little when thrown forward too.
When a guy with five odd years in the system is performing like a middle of the road player in the VFL, it's pretty much done. He should be looking a class above by now.
For me, his last chance is to play back and try to make it as a stopping, intercepting defender. But I'm bit sure he has the intensity and focus for it.
He is kinda the main man now in the ruck, but just had no presence. We looked much more effective when CCJ went on the ball. He did very little when thrown forward too.
When a guy with five odd years in the system is performing like a middle of the road player in the VFL, it's pretty much done. He should be looking a class above by now.
For me, his last chance is to play back and try to make it as a stopping, intercepting defender. But I'm bit sure he has the intensity and focus for it.
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