Welcome to Tigers: Jason Castagna

James

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Sep 11, 2016
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How could it be greener than the tigers? Castagna gets great opportunities at the tigers, how often has he been dropped?

George is going fine.
Quite possibly as no 1 small forward at any of the clubs I have named with the exception of Adelaide and on much more coin.
 

Tiger Pops

Tiger Champion
Apr 22, 2008
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Agree Castagna is doing "ok" gets up the ground and can find the ball. Is very quick and is playing there or there abouts on 2017-2018 form. Unline Butler who has regressed and Rioli who is showing glimpses but is borderline on the selection whiteboard.
 

Tiger Pops

Tiger Champion
Apr 22, 2008
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Agree Castagna is doing "ok" gets up the ground and can find the ball. Is very quick and is playing there or there abouts on 2017-2018 form. Unline Butler who has regressed and Rioli who is showing glimpses but is borderline on the selection whiteboard.
 

tigerdell

Hope springs infernal
Mar 29, 2014
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Sure later, he hits the left foot snap, but that just can't somehow....'make up for it'. It's a very tough gig, and basically...he has to make both, if we are to be as good as we could be.
Except it does make up for it. 1 missed goal opportunity, 1 goal from a very low chance.

The rest of it is subjective.
I agree that the missed Lambert to Stack to Goal square would have been a beautiful goal. it was so perfect
The left foot snap from the pocket when we all would've expected just a boundary throw in - well it was beautiful too.
 

TigerMasochist

Walks softly carries a big stick.
Jul 13, 2003
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I've avoided the Castagna stuff really, as it is a kind of an ...ad nauseum scenario, with the back and forth, it's neverending good this, bad that stuff. And...that's a fair bit how he is anyway, per se.

Yes he's a chaos creator, and yes that HAS been when we were at out best, at points in time. So he's of value, and Dimma has valued him, clearly. So yes Smoking, okay fair enough. And yes Zip, he puts in 110% every time, he does.

But (yes it had to come) those propositions are not infinite - there's a degree, an extent, after which they no longer apply. In a similar vein, they don't apply for all time either.

Mr B mentions the fact George is a momentum killer, as SO many have, over time. For damn good reason, as he is just that. I was certain someone would mention the 3rd quarter scenario - Lambert to Stack, THAT kick, and George stuffs it up. Sure later, he hits the left foot snap, but that just can't somehow....'make up for it'. It's a very tough gig, and basically...he has to make both, if we are to be as good as we could be.

Every sport turns on momentum, obviously. Even like golf for heaven's sake, you make a certain shot, or even a putt or whatever, and it turns the whole damn thing around. Or it doesn't, if you miss. Of all games though, I think our game - AFL - having watched the game for years on end, is particularly susceptible to this.

I don't want to wax overlyrical here, but taking the most recent example, of all passages of play in the Saints game, I'd say the most 'beautiful', the one that got people out of seats, the kind of thing we want to see, was that 3rd quarter play. It's not as if that game was loaded with that kind of thing, but anyway never mind that for now.

And he stuffed it, at the knocker. Okay it happens, fair enough. But again SO many times, he does this. Last year, the GWS game - it is unfair generally, to say one player cost us a certain game. But that one? About as clear as any could be, he did.

Look even Richo, one of the most popular ever to have played for the club, had this in him. He could just kill you, the team, the game, at times. He had that same thing where your heart would be in your mouth, not knowing if he'd screw up, something you'd think was relatively basic, at a certain point. BUT he also brought so much regardless, you could let it go, kind of. George is not in that league, no way.

I forget the scoreline at the time George made that miss, but it was close, the game was in the balance. It's not just the score either. If he makes it, the entire team is lifted BIG TIME. And this was one of the lesser teams in the league, so we could get away with the miss. In a close game, an important final or the big one, against a seriously good team, you want to feel, he is MORE likely than not to make it. The problem is, we will never be able to say or feel that, barring divine intervention, a bolt of lightning, something of that ilk.

So in short I'm saying, okay on your points, but honestly, in the end? A team has to evolve, and George can be very expensive, in ways that are not just 'in the moment' or the score. With people coming in, I can't see him lasting, whatever Dimma might have thought about him, whatever our 'game style' is or has been, all of that.
So Jaaack's three misses in the Granny were momentum killers n his other three goals later in the game didn't make up for the misses?

Us fans are entitled to hop up n down n carry on when players stuff up, that's our job. Smart players n teams know n understand that sometimes in the heat n intensity of a match, players stuff up, sometimes big time. Understand it, accept it happens, head down arse up n go again. Teams that can do this are generally the ones that are consistently up around finals and flags, because they all chip in together, good or bad.
 

Mr Brightside

Tiger Legend
Jul 1, 2005
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without google, I think this maybe correct. But he's kicked 3 and 5 im pretty sure?
Just googled , he kicked a career high 4 against Brisbane early 2017 , he also went 4 rounds with no goals and 8 behinds last season, source wikipedia .

He’s pretty much on par with his last 2 seasons of 26 goals at about 50%
 

eZyT

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Jun 28, 2019
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Just googled , he kicked a career high 4 against Brisbane early 2017 , he also went 4 rounds with no goals and 8 behinds last season, source wikipedia .

He’s pretty much on par with his last 2 seasons of 26 goals at about 50%
I thought hed kicked a bag. Is 4 a bag these days?
 

tigerlove

Tiger Legend
Aug 9, 2014
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Ok straight to the source these are Castagna's goal-kicking bag stats in his career:

4 goals - once
3 goals - 4 times
2 goals - 16 times
1 goal - 18 times
No goals - 26 times

He has kicked a bag of 5 behinds in a stretch where he kicked 8 behinds in a row. Hope that clears up any conjecture over his ball bags.