Welcome to Tigers: Jason Castagna

[Carter]

Footballers need to find the ball at some stage. And when they get it, kick like an afl player not an Auskick kid.
Honestly Carts, your defence of George is becoming his performance.
Stats mightn’t always account for everything but they sure give some idea who does what, where and how.
Not just the usual “runs all day and is fast”. I’d prefer someone who can run most of the day, is quick and can find and use the ball to the team‘s advantage. I know that premise seems a bit odd.

I said he isn’t bulletproof, and I like skill as much as anyone.

I’d have Stack in there in a heartbeat, but if we drop George and the arcane defensive mechanisms of our team fall apart against Hawthorn then it proves that none of us on here know what the *smile* we’re on about.

George is meta

He is nebulous

He is the vibe brah

 

[lamb22]

What you and many others don’t understand is that Castagna runs to fill space. He and KMac are specialists at it. Pickett now also.

This kind of defensive running closes off space so the oppo can’t make dangerous leads and the oppo ball carrier won’t be tempted by the fat side.

This isn’t carried by any stat I know except total metres covered by the individual player, which doesn’t tell the whole story.

George runs all day and is fast. He plays a specific defensive role and Dimma is loathe to drop him as we know.

I’m not saying George is untouchable at the minute but folks have gotta understand that stats don’t account for everything.

I do understand George's role Carts. I've seen chickens with their heads cut off.

 

[Coburgtiger]

What you and many others don’t understand is that Castagna runs to fill space. He and KMac are specialists at it. Pickett now also.

This kind of defensive running closes off space so the oppo can’t make dangerous leads and the oppo ball carrier won’t be tempted by the fat side.

This isn’t carried by any stat I know except total metres covered by the individual player, which doesn’t tell the whole story.

George runs all day and is fast. He plays a specific defensive role and Dimma is loathe to drop him as we know.

I’m not saying George is untouchable at the minute but folks have gotta understand that stats don’t account for everything.

He wasn't even in the top 5 for metres covered though.

It seems that we've retreated so far from what George was, to what he must now be to justify his selection, that we've lost sight of any logic.

He doesn't tackle.

He doesn't perform pressure acts.

He doesn't create or use the ball well.

What does he do?

It is true he takes up space on the fat side.

But so would a witches hat.

I sit on the wing. I see Kmac justify his selection every week, regardless of his skill level. 14.6 km run today. 21 pressure acts.

Pickett, the same. Though he gets more time on ball, and has more to give there.

I see George standing where the ball isn't. Which may be his role. But that's a role that someone who can use the ball can also play.

 

[TigerForce]

I said he isn’t bulletproof, and I like skill as much as anyone.

I’d have Stack in there in a heartbeat, but if we drop George and the arcane defensive mechanisms of our team fall apart against Hawthorn then it proves that none of us on here know what the *smile* we’re on about.

George is meta

He is nebulous

He is the vibe brah

George is Facebook?

 

[spook]

Love George but if Prestia and Vlastuin are right to go and we have no injuries and he still plays, either Carts is right and none of us knows anything, or Dimma doesn't. The only other way I could see him staying in is if we only play one ruck or we manage Sheds or Lambo.

 

[Little Ziggyadee]

If Edwards is out of form
George is dreadfully out of form.
Looks lost, no confidence and looks spent.
Needs to go back and gain some form in the 2's

 

[Spirit of Jack]

He wasn't even in the top 5 for metres covered though.

It seems that we've retreated so far from what George was, to what he must now be to justify his selection, that we've lost sight of any logic.

He doesn't tackle.

He doesn't perform pressure acts.

He doesn't create or use the ball well.

What does he do?

It is true he takes up space on the fat side.

But so would a witches hat.

I sit on the wing. I see Kmac justify his selection every week, regardless of his skill level. 14.6 km run today. 21 pressure acts.

Pickett, the same. Though he gets more time on ball, and has more to give there.

I see George standing where the ball isn't. Which may be his role. But that's a role that someone who can use the ball can also play.

Terrific post. I have no idea what George does that justifies being a lock in this team. Clearly the club has some measurement for George that so transcendent that neither statistics nor the eye can pick it up. I just reckon we are playing 21 v 22 every week with him out there.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Love George but if Prestia and Vlastuin are right to go and we have no injuries and he still plays, either Carts is right and none of us knows anything, or Dimma doesn't.

Old mate Dimma's somehow managed to get us three flags with Georgie n a few similars in the side. He constantly mentions in his pressers that we don't count stats the same as other clubs n value certain other unmentioned factors a lot higher. Guessin Georgie's doin as Dimma asks him to or Dimma's just seriously taking the *smile*. Whatever it is, it's been working so I aint gunna bleat to much.

 

[fastin bulbous]

What you and many others don’t understand is that Castagna runs to fill space. He and KMac are specialists at it. Pickett now also.

This kind of defensive running closes off space so the oppo can’t make dangerous leads and the oppo ball carrier won’t be tempted by the fat side.

This isn’t carried by any stat I know except total metres covered by the individual player, which doesn’t tell the whole story.

George runs all day and is fast. He plays a specific defensive role and Dimma is loathe to drop him as we know.

I’m not saying George is untouchable at the minute but folks have gotta understand that stats don’t account for everything.

But footballing ability and basic skills should count for a lot.

 

[Dont Argue]

I saw enough of George last week.
Then I saw enough of George yesterday.
Not looking forward to seeing enough of him next week

 

[gold1]

trade

 

[Tenacious]

I saw enough of George last week.
Then I saw enough of George yesterday.
Not looking forward to seeing enough of him next week

Enough‘s enough

 

[tora]

MRJ seems to be playing the traditional small fwd at the bottom of packs. He and Lynch are developing chemistry. George needs a freshen up. Get his hands on the footy

 

[year of the tiger]

The trouble with George is that we have have given Rioli first crack at defence when he went off the boil a bit. No space for George back their so is there the option of trialling him as a defensive mid maybe - or no space their either or maybe his kicking is not elite enough for that role or the one in defence.

 

[Harry]

End the farce

 

[St Kevin]

The trouble with George is that we have have given Rioli first crack at defence when he went off the boil a bit. No space for George back their so is there the option of trialling him as a defensive mid maybe - or no space their either or maybe his kicking is not elite enough for that role or the one in defence.

George isn't a good enough kick to be moved down back. Forward or bust imo.

 

[Willo]

Old mate Dimma's somehow managed to get us three flags with Georgie n a few similars in the side. He constantly mentions in his pressers that we don't count stats the same as other clubs n value certain other unmentioned factors a lot higher. Guessin Georgie's doin as Dimma asks him to or Dimma's just seriously taking the *smile*. Whatever it is, it's been working so I aint gunna bleat to much.

That was then, this is now Massa.
The rules have changed, the game style has changed.
I don’t give a *smile* if Dimma reckons George is the 2nd coming as the messiah of small forwards. As do some of his most ardent supporters.
A player who has 3 effective kicks for 75% game time, tells me something. He’s fallen asleep on the field somewhere, he can’t read the play, he’s where the ball ain’t, he’s a decoy duck or whatever.
But any or all of the above tells me we‘re a player down on the field. I don’t give a *smile* if he runs hard all day (for what, to where?) and runs fast, your eyeballs won’t lie. Regardless of stats.
What’s he earn? $3-400k a year? He’s the oldest highest paid auskicker in the league
To consistently miss from 30m out when you have limited ball, tells me you’re playing millionairesque football while you’ve the skill set of a pauper.
Plenty on here judge other players in regard to performance, ball use and ability to assist the team.
Pity those astute judges use a different set of measures when it comes to Georgie boy.

 

[saigon tiger]

As I've mentioned previously in all honesty would he get a regular game with any other club. The worst 3 time premiership player in history IMO

 

[TigerMad]

If we are rebuilding on the fly, then we should be introducing young fast skilled players as much as we can.
The key is balance, not too many and spread around.
Replacing a Castagna for a period, is not going to disrupt team balance.

Managing Edwards, Prestia, Lambert, Cotchin during the season will create opportunities and long term benefits to rebuild and still play finals.

 

[Carter]

I agree he ain’t offering much and could be replaced without upsetting the tactical apple cart

too much