Were they good or what??

[graystar1]

Lucky enough to be given a DVD of The History of the Richmond Football Club for Dads' Day, which also included a DVD of the 1980 Grand Final.

Boy oh boy, did we have some stars in those days or what??

Roach as FF, Bartlett kicking 7 goals, Jimmy Jess starring at CHB, Michael Malthouse a rock in defence, Mark Lee killing them in the ruck.

Then there was Wiley roving beautifully, David Cloke kicking 5 goals in a great display, Francis Bourke getting his hands on eveything at FB, Weightman showing a clean pair of heels to all and sundry, Bryan Wood starring on a wing, and not forgetting the magic of Geoff Raines in the centre. Mervyn Keane was another in the backline who did not let a thing pass him. Probably left a couple out, but heh, who cares, we thumped Collingwood by a record margin.

Noticed a few things different from today's footy.

Richmond did not use the interchange until the 17 minute of the last quarter when the then captain, Bruce Monteath came on, and in the dying moments, Darryl Freame got a bit of a run. What else?? Oh yes, tackling was not as intense as today, the umpies bounced the ball very quickly, a penalty was 15 metres not 50, and the boundary umpires also threw the ball in quickly. No arguing with the umpires...I think one was Bill Dellar. More one on one contests, and play on was the order of the day.

Amazing to contemplate that both Cloke Raines and Malthouse all ended up at Collingwood. Bryan Wood went to Essendon.

For those too young to remember back that far, our coach was Tony Jewell.

Ah, the good old days. How the game has changed in 25 years.

Tonight, watching the Swans and Cats, I have to wonder!! This would have to be one of the worst games I have ever seen.

 

[Tubytiger]

Gee, looking back on that period for the tigers is fantastic oh grey one. I only hope that the up and commers now within the team grab their chance with both hands in the coming seasons mate and create a new winning culture which we havent seen since those days.

As to tonights game, well it is a blight on our great game watching this flooding crap...but on such a ground it is easily done... On a different note i was at the sydney airport tonight coming back from a week in sydney working only to see the big :donut3 walk through from a flight from Melbourne. After Kings injury tonight they would of loved to of had him out there tonight but then again it was interesting that he would not of gone up to Sydney with the playing group as a whole especially with them playing in a final..... :-X

 

[23.21.159]

Barely a year goes by that I don't have a look at that game too. It's also a credit to Tom Hafey that he got that team of nobody's into a GF. I mean, have a good look. Aside from a very young T.Shaw and P.Daicos, who did they have?
Note Lee's ruckwork, punching the cr@p out of it as far forward as he could and he didn't care where it went. 40 metres in the right direction was better than worrying about tapping it down to a rover.
The most constantly one-sided GF ever IMO. There have been bigger margins but we outscored them by 3 or 4 goals in each quarter - a 14 goal win.
Along with my avatar, I reckon Bartlett's dance around Magro and subsequent goal in the last quarter is my favorite Richmond moment ever. He was 33 - just humiliated the bloke.
Oh, and Richmond fans of the 60s and 70s vintage would be surprised to learn that TJ was still only 36 then, even though he looked 56.

Geeze, I reckon Richmond's administrative incompetence must have started at about 1979 because it's an utter crime that side didn't win at least two more flags. :'(

 

[Rosy]

I've still never seen our 1980 gf win  :-[....I'll put a change to that this summer for sure.

 

[graystar1]

Note Lee's ruckwork, punching the cr@p out of it as far forward as he could and he didn't care where it went. 40 metres in the right direction was better than worrying about tapping it down to a rover.

You are so right 21.23. What you forgot to mention was how that opened the game up. Can't help wondering why that tactic is not used today??

Rosy, do yourself a favour and make sure you get a copy of that game. Sure, no Bourke, Barrott and Clay and Roycey Baby, but a bunch of real team oriented players. Not like that crap tonight. As someone said, a blight on the game. The Rugby League must be rubbing their hands with glee at such a poor spectacle.

 

[23.21.159]

Note Lee's ruckwork, punching the cr@p out of it as far forward as he could and he didn't care where it went. 40 metres in the right direction was better than worrying about tapping it down to a rover.

You are so right 21.23. What you forgot to mention was how that opened the game up. Can't help wondering why that tactic is not used today??

Rosy, do yourself a favour and make sure you get a copy of that game. Sure, no Bourke, Barrott and Clay and Roycey Baby, but a bunch of real  team oriented players. Not like that crap tonight. As someone said, a blight on the game. The Rugby League must be rubbing their hands with glee at such a poor spectacle.

Bourke played. He and KB were the only ones to play in all five flags - 67, 69, 73, 74 and 80. KB also played in the 72 and 82 losses. Bourke played in 72 and coached 82.

 

[Ridley]

Tonight, watching the Swans and Cats, I have to wonder!! This would have to be one of the worst games I have ever seen.

Hear hear Graystar. It was a blight on the game.

 

[graystar1]

Bourke played. He and KB were the only ones to play in all five flags - 67, 69, 73, 74 and 80. KB also played in the 72 and 82 losses. Bourke played in 72 and coached 82.

Yes, he did play 23.21, and I made mention of that. Good game too.

Should have made myself somewhat clearer. What I was referring to was the best centre line ever in the history of the game in Bourke, Barrott and Clay. How exciting those days were, when the Tigers were feared by all.

Cloke kicked 5 goals, and should have had a couple more, except for very, and I mean very, bad kicking. Can anyone remember why he went to Collingwood??

 

[bigwow]

Cloke kicked 5 goals, and should have had a couple more, except for very, and I mean very, bad kicking. Can anyone remember why he went to Collingwood??

One version of the story is, Brian Taylor was shooting his mouth off about how much he was getting paid, Cloke etc heard and fronted the board asking for more money, the club knocked them back, and the rest is history.

 

[bravetiger]

Rosy, how dare you sware like that. The 1980 GF is great for many reasons, and everyone here should have a copy

1. We defeated Collingwood
2. We won by the greatest winning margin in a grand final
3. KB kicked the most goals by a player in a grand final
4. We defeated Collingwod
5. All of the above occured agains Collingwood.

You must go straight to Kmart or Target now, pick yourself up a copy and watch it 2 or 3 times.

 

[23.21.159]

Cloke kicked 5 goals, and should have had a couple more, except for very, and I mean very, bad kicking. Can anyone remember why he went to Collingwood??

One version of the story is, Brian Taylor was shooting his mouth off about how much he was getting paid, Cloke etc heard and fronted the board asking for more money, the club knocked them back, and the rest is history.

If the above story is true, then it must be a good lesson for any football administrator. In hindsight they should have just given BT the flick. Cloke and Raines wouldn't have left and who knows what might have happened in 83, 84 onwards.

Rosy I still can't believe you haven't seen that game. How can you call yourself a true Tiger fan? What on earth were you doing on that day? It was televised live.

 

[Rosy]

How can you call yourself a true Tiger fan?

:'(

What on earth were you doing on that day?

It was a very low and tragic time in my life. :'(

 

[TIGEREXTRA]

I've still never seen our 1980 gf win :-[....I'll put a change to that this summer for sure.

I have a spare dvd of that game you can have if you want, would you like me to send it to you?

PM me with the details if you would like it Rosy.

 

[Tigers of Old]

1980 vs 2006

I was listening to closely to Bummer Thompson's comments the other day, where he said that the Cats were perceived to be the second best Victorian side this year. He went on to say their results this season indicated that and it wasn't a bad season in his eyes.
This got me thinking...

Just how much harder is it to win a premiership these days for the Richmond than it was in 1980? Expedentially I would suggest.

25 years ago Geelong would probably be playing off in the Grand Final in a couple of weeks. The injection of interstate clubs has been terrific for the AFL but hasn't done our chances of tasting the ultimate success in September many favours at all.

Sure there's been many changes to the competition in the last 25 years but I think these two highlight just how much harder it is for the Tigers to win a premiership now than it was in 1980.

1980 - VFL 12 teams                         2006 - AFL 16 teams

1980 - Victorian sides only                2006 - 10 Victorian sides 6 interstate clubs

It's not exactly rocket science, but when you see it written down like that the odds of us ever reaching the great hights of yesteryear are substantially more difficult now than they were at the time of our last premiership. If St Kilda manage to take it out this year it will have been a monumental result for them.

I think many success starved Tiger supporters tend to lose sight of this simple fact all too easily when comparing our results from a time passed.

So when it does happen in the next few years relish it more than any other premiership glory the RFC has ever had because the task is greater than it's ever been.

 

[TigerGoneNorth]

Sitting in the old Southern Stand watching Bartlett turn Maggot Magro inside out and snagging another goal just in front of you. Pure bliss.

I loved Jimmy Jess ambling in to kick a goal holding the ball in one hand too.

I also loved the sight of the fat Collingwood supporter my Dad and I walked past who was sitting on his Esky crying at the end of the game. He should have his own statue outside the Great Southern stand next to Lethal Leigh's to commemorate the pain those supporters endured (and the joy it gave us).

 

[Skills]

1980 vs 2006
Just how much harder is it to win a premiership these days for the Richmond than it was in 1980? Expedentially I would suggest.

25 years ago Geelong would probably be playing off in the Grand Final in a couple of weeks. The injection of interstate clubs has been terrific for the AFL but hasn't done our chances of tasting the ultimate success in September many favours at all.

Sure there's been many changes to the competition in the last 25 years but I think these two highlight just how much harder it is for the Tigers to win a premiership now than it was in 1980.

In 1980, Richmond would have gone to any Intersate venue for a final and bashed the crap out of the opposition. Lee, Jess and Cloke alone would have been too much physically. Wiley, Weightman, Rowlings, Raines & Bartlett, would have matched any opposition for pace. Bourke, Dunne, Wood, Keane & Malthouse would have steadied the ship.

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

In 1980, Richmond would have gone to any Intersate venue for a final and bashed the crap out of the opposition.

Certainly the 1980 side was one of the awesome sides going around in footbal history. It was a pleasure watching them maul other sides, and driving to the matches it was pure confidence knowing you wouldn't lose.

 

[Tigers of Old]

In 1980, Richmond would have gone to any Intersate venue for a final and bashed the crap out of the opposition. Lee, Jess and Cloke alone would have been too much physically. Wiley, Weightman, Rowlings, Raines & Bartlett, would have matched any opposition for pace. Bourke, Dunne, Wood, Keane & Malthouse would have steadied the ship.

I don't doubt that Skills. It's sad that we only won one premiership with players of that ilk.