West Coast Whingers

[purepoweryouth]

they're the premiers and they still complain. arrogant f$%$%(^  pr!cks! i hate them

Ditto

 

[Ian4]

according to caroline wilson on 3aw yesterday, west coast have 24 employees in their footy department. with the addition of rawlings and mccrae, we now have 14. talk about david v goliath... how can we compete?

 

[Bill James]

according to caroline wilson on 3aw yesterday, west coast have 24 employees in their footy department. with the addition of rawlings and mccrae, we now have 14. talk about david v goliath... how can we compete?

Required: one Victorian Football Commission as in SA and WA that carries the weight of 10 clubs united to the AFL and gets what it wants because it has the majority and the power.

Alternatively we can wait until a couple more clubs die or relocate and then the balance of power shifts.

 

[Darth Tiger]

I reckon its a reasonably valid claim particularly in regard to flight availabilities.  As long as it's looked at the same way in reagrd to teams travelling to Perth.  What do we really care if WC play in the daytime?  If I was them, I'd be at least asking.

Agree, and suggest that the position is largely player driven, because the extra day travelling is classified as the players AFLPA "day off".

Would you work a 13 day fortnight ?

If this is your attitude Victorian clubs deserve to die a slow death.

How many times when Richmond plays a home game has the opposition team had to fly more than 2000km to play that game. On average once a year.
How many times when West Coast plays a home game has the opposition team had fly more than 2000km to play that game, Every single time apart from Derby's.
So they have to fly home and they think its tough, 9 times out of 10 the team they play the next week have to make the same trip but closer to the game.  
When Richmond flys home from Perth the chances of the team they play next week making the same trip is about once every 20 seasons.

Let me tell you as one you makes that flight regularly, it often takes less than three hours to fly from Perth to the eastern state. To fly from the eastern states to Perth often takes five hours due to the jetstream. So WC has a relatively easy flight as a precursor to away games. Teams visiting Perth have a much tougher flight.

I have a lot of fun with workmates  from the east getting out on the *smile*. Doesn't matter where it is, when it hits 10pm its 8pm for me, they are fading and we ar firing. I guess the same goes for football night games, the WA sides have a definite body clock advantage for night games either side of the country. Funny how their draws are 70% night games, think they haven't worked that out.

Don't tell me they deserve a fair go, they already have all the advantages.

One gamer, pull your head in regarding me wanting VIC clubs to perish. Absolute hogwash.

Does your employer make the day that you travel to and from WA your day-off. Do you get a day-off in leiu ?

Is it the players fault that they there are apart of and have contributed to build a successful side ?

 

[Bill James]

I reckon its a reasonably valid claim particularly in regard to flight availabilities.  As long as it's looked at the same way in reagrd to teams travelling to Perth.  What do we really care if WC play in the daytime?  If I was them, I'd be at least asking.

Agree, and suggest that the position is largely player driven, because the extra day travelling is classified as the players AFLPA "day off".

Would you work a 13 day fortnight ?

If this is your attitude Victorian clubs deserve to die a slow death.

How many times when Richmond plays a home game has the opposition team had to fly more than 2000km to play that game. On average once a year.
How many times when West Coast plays a home game has the opposition team had fly more than 2000km to play that game, Every single time apart from Derby's.
So they have to fly home and they think its tough, 9 times out of 10 the team they play the next week have to make the same trip but closer to the game.  
When Richmond flys home from Perth the chances of the team they play next week making the same trip is about once every 20 seasons.

Let me tell you as one you makes that flight regularly, it often takes less than three hours to fly from Perth to the eastern state. To fly from the eastern states to Perth often takes five hours due to the jetstream. So WC has a relatively easy flight as a precursor to away games. Teams visiting Perth have a much tougher flight.

I have a lot of fun with workmates  from the east getting out on the *smile*. Doesn't matter where it is, when it hits 10pm its 8pm for me, they are fading and we ar firing. I guess the same goes for football night games, the WA sides have a definite body clock advantage for night games either side of the country. Funny how their draws are 70% night games, think they haven't worked that out.

Don't tell me they deserve a fair go, they already have all the advantages.

One gamer, pull your head in regarding me wanting VIC clubs to perish.  Absolute hogwash.

Does your employer make the day that you travel to and from WA your day-off.  Do you get a day-off in leiu ?

Is it the players fault that they there are apart of and have contributed to build a successful side ?

Usually I leave at 4.30pm in the afternoon (often on a Sunday) and fly back at 7pm the following night so yes I do fly in my own time and no I don't get a day in lieu. I refuse to fly the midnight horror. How do Victorian teams get home after a night game at Subi?

The Weagles want a concession for something that goes both ways, as I pointed out there are significant disadvantages going west to play and there are no concessions sought or granted to eastern states teams.

So why are you happy to give them a concession for their away games when their opponents for home games have the same disadvangate. I can only assume its because you are prepared to let them have advantages that Vic clubs don't have.

If concessions keep being given, Vic clubs will die, and it will be the collective fault of all those who failed to fight the concessions. Which last time I looked had included, draft picks, salary caps, home finals, over representation on the commission, membership discrimination for away games, state government financial underwriting. It goes on and on and for some reason Vic clubs, administrators, members and supporters have got their heads so far up their Melbourne tribal %^(*&(*&s they can't see the world has gone past them.

 

[Ian4]

west coast are so rich they will probably be able to buy their own private jet soon enough and treat their players like kings (ala NBA layers) which will give them another advantage over the plebs

 

[Bill James]

west coast are so rich they will probably be able to buy their own private jet soon enough and treat their players like kings (ala NBA layers) which will give them another advantage over the plebs

Have wondered whether it was worth the AFL hiring a special purpose jet with suitable, recovery, leg room, to cater for all teams on the long haul games. Teams wouldn't then be constrained by airline schedules.

Have only flown with AFL teams a couple of times and the players were in cattleclass, given they are above average for size it seemed a bit stupid to me.

 

[jb03]

west coast are so rich they will probably be able to buy their own private jet soon enough and treat their players like kings (ala NBA layers) which will give them another advantage over the plebs

Have wondered whether it was worth the AFL hiring a special purpose jet with suitable, recovery, leg room, to cater for all teams on the long haul games. Teams wouldn't then be constrained by airline schedules.

Have only flown with AFL teams a couple of times and the players were in cattleclass, given they are above average for size it seemed a bit stupid to me.

They would need more than one plane I would think. IMagine if they only had one plane - would be a new excuse for teams when they lost interstate "I really felt the boys missed the comforts of the AFL plane today."