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What a novel idea
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It was a great improvement, but I think we still lost the tackle count. Need to keep it up for next week.....gonna be a massive game.
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Tackle count versus opponent for season 2009pharace said:
1st St Kilda
14th Geelong
Sometimes a low count means you are under pressure, sometimes a high count means you are chasing.
I like most stats but particularly like points for and against in grand finals as an indicator of where a team is at.
Richo was funny on telly last night. He said we've had Storm players at the club teaching tackling for 2-3 years but he doubts Robbie Kearns (might be wrong with the name, I don't follow rugby) would tell too many people he was involved, jokingly inferring they haven't had too much success with us. He said they're taught to hold the arms in when tackling because it means the opponent can't dispose of the ball properly and you'll be rewarded with a free.
rosy23 said:
Waste of time and money having a hulking league player showing Jordan McMahon how to tackle.
Tackling isn't just about technique, it's about attitude.
rosy23 said:
I've had a few people on here have a go at me in disbelief and off PRE in the "real world" ( :hihi) when I've told them we have had Storm down at our club the last few years not just recently.
Can't say I blame them. :hihi
Tigers of Old said:
It's about both. The better the technique and execution the more the opposition pays the price. It seems a bit of Jordy bashing to single him out too. He's certainly not the only one who isn't exactly strong in that area but overall he probably contributes more than he costs us. It would be great if every player could aim to do a certain number of tackles a game. I know it's something Whitey had as a personal goal and he was our leading tackler against the Roos.
Dyer it was discussed on here a few years ago when we first got Storm players to the club. I forget which year it was but a search would probably find it somewhere in the archives.
Edit- Here is a link to an article about Storm players teaching us tackling in 2006
rosy23 said:
I'd say tackling's about 80% attitude and 20% technique. Maybe higher.
Footballer's are taught the basics from a very early age how to tackle.
They should not need to be taught much by the time they reach AFL level.
If they do it's a worry.
Not suggesting a technique can't be at all improved but having a rugby player teaching technique there for 3 years seems ridiculous to me.
Richo's basically said as much given how little success it's had.
Mindset is the key to a good tackling side and Wallet's statistical history with football teams show's he has never place a high emphasis on that aspect of the game.
Perhaps a touch unfair to single him out but Muffin but he was only used as an example because he is typically why we have been crap in this area for so long. Skinny and defensively unaccountable.
Finally some harder bodies are coming into the side with the right mindset.
I doubt Kearns will need to teach those blokes much at all.
Tigers of Old said:
Richo, and the panel, also discussed the rewards of good technique and the reasoning behind it. I got the opinion they think it's quite important.
80% attitude, maybe more, 20% technique is a way to exaggerated proportion imo. Players need a good proportion of both. It's no good tackling heaps but not having any effect and it's no good having the best technique in the game if they don't bother using it.
martyshire said:
That's where Terry's 5 year plan went wrong.
Years 1 - 3 ......Switch players around in positions constantly until they "click" into a spot
Year 4 - Get us much athletes into the side as you can, don't worry about kicking or footballers. Oh and play Richo on the wing!
Year 5 - Start tackling
He left it too late to insert shepherding, that will prove his downfall. Or maybe we should give him another year so we can fairly judge him....
The single biggest problem with RFC's tackling is that it is predicated on playing a team called Tackle Bags. We beat those mute, stationary bastards every time :hihi
Ocker said:
Exactly.
It's one of the most basic skills taught.
AFL footballers know how to do it, that doesn't mean that they all do it when required.