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What can we read into today's loss?
- Thread starter Punxsutawney Phil
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Freezer said:
Reasonable point Freeze.
Had minimal impact today but he was not our worst up forward and had some nice touches.
Tough side to come back against after a 4 week layoff.
Next week will give us a clearer indication about JBs future.
That Jake King is not up to it and should make way. Cory Jones, milne and now Gamble and Chapman (6 goals between them) is proof, if any is needed, that the all opposition sides know that King is a liabilility to be exploited. geelong's pressure on us when we had the ball from half way through the second quarter and all of the third brutally exposed our lack of skills under pressure. The goals we gave away as a result killed us. we are not the first side to be exposed by geelong in this way and we won't be the last. couldn't get the ball out of the centre and our hard ball gets dried up.Cotchin very promising.
Punxsutawney Phil said:
Agree wholehartedly with your assessment of Essendon. Essendon will be a far better benchmark of whether the space between the ears of our players has changed or not, than using a game in the wet against last year's Premiers. We should win next weeks game and win it well. Essendon are clearly bottom 4 (especially with all of their injuries) and the way how we have played (for the most part) over the last 4 weeks suggests we could be a top 8 team if we keep playing with the level of intensity that has been seen over the past 4/5 weeks (third quarter yesterday excluded).
Our overall stats compared favourably yesterday with Geelong (CP, tackles, disposal efficiency, etc), with the exception of I50's and midfield possessions. We were beaten in the contests that matter and in the parts of the ground that matter and that is due to the bigger bodies and experience of Geelong.
We should be expecting a good 4 quarter win next week and if we don't get it then applications to join the darkside will increase dramatically.
Len Smith said:
His defensive performances is becoming a big concern and could have single handedly cost us the game against St Kilda. We also need to weigh up the rebound he gives us. Having both him and McMahon in the team gives us great run off the backline, however we need both of them to be able to shut up shop on their forwards when the pressure starts to mount.
Having just said this about Jake - he had the most CP's yesterday (9% of team's total) and disposal effiency was 85% - if we bring someone in to replace him, they need to be very good.
Backbone said:
Yep, would have to agree. Hopefully he'll mature and stop trying to crash through every tackle. Might even become a tad more accountable too. But, that said, shouldn't matter if the defense was structured better. Get another guy in who'll stick to his man and King can be the guy clearing off the half back line. I find Wallace's 'quarterback' concept quite appealing, at least in theory, but McMahon, sadly, is not the player to implement it. Unfortunately I can't really think of any other gun kicks in our side. Could someone like Deledio play off half back? Then move King into the middle perhaps? Ideas? ...
That when you know in advance that we'll be playing in a blizzard you don't bring a marking tall (Polak) over a skilled and "on form" small (Tivva). Simple really Wallet you Puke! The 'Burgers had it right. Keep the score board ticking over.
Bloody hell get of Jakeys back.
The amount of times he was our only defender going up to make a double fisted spoil was incredible.
He's a pygmy but constantly put his arse on the line because he was the only one who got back to the incoming.
His job as the small defender is also to run and carry out of the backline and link through mid and deliver forward. It's a bit *smile* hard to do when you are the only one running and your teammates are mostly just standing around letting the opposition zone off.
Chappy is a gem mongrel small forward, with the amount of ball coming in to our backline Chappy and shitballs like Milne are always going to get a heap of goal opportunities.
The amount of times he was our only defender going up to make a double fisted spoil was incredible.
He's a pygmy but constantly put his arse on the line because he was the only one who got back to the incoming.
His job as the small defender is also to run and carry out of the backline and link through mid and deliver forward. It's a bit *smile* hard to do when you are the only one running and your teammates are mostly just standing around letting the opposition zone off.
Chappy is a gem mongrel small forward, with the amount of ball coming in to our backline Chappy and shitballs like Milne are always going to get a heap of goal opportunities.
and here i was thinking the cats were undefeated.....geez take it easy!! Its not the end of the world and the win count for me is really not that big of a deal - development is the key. Keep playing the young guys and introduce players like Cotchin into the team..I also think its time Wallace sticks to his structure and gets Schulz back in at CHB, Hughes at CHF, debut Collins and play Connors and Polo.
Players like hyde, bowden, johnson, tuck etc really shouldnt be in our thinking anymore - they arent taking us forward.
Players like hyde, bowden, johnson, tuck etc really shouldnt be in our thinking anymore - they arent taking us forward.
tha8ball said:
Agree on Schulz and Connors....maybe Collins and Polo but I haven't seen much from Cleever. He wasn't overly effective in a winning side yesterday. Terrible conditions I know.
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Backbone said:
Teams have worked him out, he provides run off half back and is not strong overhead, now his opponent takes him deep in the forward line to expose him overhead and stop him running through the centre.
At least he tries to compete because we know his opponent is. Try working out who MacMahon is playing on during the game.
Leysy Days said:
Well said. Next week should be a comfortable win if we have progressed. If we lose (and Kinghter will be fired up against his old team) then some of the other T treads going on this forum will get a lot more sympathy.
Win or loss, we are improving. We're matching it with the best sides in the comp with a really young team. Slowly we'll see Hyde, Tuck, Bowden and co out of the team.
Im just looking forward to next year.......I'd be disappointed if we didnt take another step.
Im just looking forward to next year.......I'd be disappointed if we didnt take another step.
Still do and always hoped this would be a developing year. Forget about the 8 this year. Cats are great side. One quarter cost us and with every clanger we committed we paid dearly. Cut the mistakes out and that is at least 5 goals off the opposition's score. We must be patient. Hopefully another 6-8 wins in us this year.
King will do me right now - he and Reiwoldt inject a spirit that our Capt and others couldn't muster. Jake has some flaws, and his accountability is more symptomatic of teamates up the ground letting him down and being caught out on the rebound.
Foley, King and an improving Lids are key reasons we are competitive right now. Matty White and Moore are tracking well on the improvement scale as well!
Foley, King and an improving Lids are key reasons we are competitive right now. Matty White and Moore are tracking well on the improvement scale as well!
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