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What did we do to Paul Roos?

Phar Ace said:
Another great post :clap

(not stalking you - really ;D )
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;D

Phar Ace said:
the King incident was 'fair contest - having officiated four sports, 'who got their first' is always front and centre in a decision, and I think because Kingy had so much intensity and came to the contest from further away, it's sometimes easy to presume what you see. Kingy was a fraction lower at the contest, fractionally behind in timing. Really couldn't see either player having the opportunity to change the outcome - incidental contact - should have been play on for mine, but I wouldn't criticise and free to North depending on the side of the contest the umpire(s) saw the incident from. A report? No way. Will watch the MRP with interest.
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yep , Kingy was fractionally 2nd to the contest but he was actually lower with his body than Pratt. I would have thought that both players did exactly what the AFL want players to do in these circumstances. It probably shows that the rule is working because clearly both players were trying to be very low in the collision.
If there is a report from that incident then I will be very very surprised.
 
smasha said:
What's the media and commentators have to do with Richmond?

2 different entities.

I've had another look at the Martin free and you see the North player put 2 knees in his back and that's why the free was called.
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Agree it was paid for in the back not the high contacat.
 
HK Tiger said:
If Roos was commenting to be contentious then he succeeded. He has an obvious bias against us, we played with great passion, made mistakes and beat a bogey team for us for many years. Backline gave many goals with silly turnovers but we still won.
We are the youngest average team in the AFL along with the Suns - we are learning but I generally like the style of play and attack on the ball
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Game need Brucey.

You would think that the game had a 100 point difference between teams,it was that dour.

Lucky I was at the game.
 
Phar Ace said:
It shouldn't but even if it does, don't do that LTRTR - Richmond needs you (send in a cut up replica - same message)!
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For me the game would be dead. King showed fantastic commitment with eyes only for the ball...he was the one more likely to come off second best. High contact to Pratt was incidental; could've been a free kick paid but other than that, absolutely nothing in it. Similar to the Brown-Jackson collision from last year.

If they're going to punish that sort of desperation, they can't expect to retain spectators.
 
Phar Ace said:
Agree, i don't have the benefit of a copy of the game, thought at the time one knee was actually on the neck/shoulder - can you confirm or was it just the angle of the vision?
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There was no knee in the shoulder, only a knee on the back, however, as Dusty ducked his head FIRST it should've been play on.......including the commentary.

Considering we've copped a lot of gimmes against us in front of goal, we were lucky to get this one which sealed the game for us.
 
TigerForce said:
There was no knee in the shoulder, only a knee on the back, however, as Dusty ducked his head FIRST it should've been play on.......including the commentary.

Considering we've copped a lot of gimmes against us in front of goal, we were lucky to get this one which sealed the game for us.
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It was play on for ducking the head he was paid for in the back.
The ump made the push in the back signal not the high contacat.
 
Tigermad2005 said:
It was play on for ducking the head he was paid for in the back.
The ump made the push in the back signal not the high contacat.
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Whichever way these umpires 'interpret' this game, I can't see how a knee in the back is a free kick unless it injures the player?
 
TigerForce said:
Whichever way these umpires 'interpret' this game, I can't see how a knee in the back is a free kick unless it injures the player?
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He fell into him with both knees pushing him in the back.
Free to us.
Hell with 5 min to go it was still anyones game.
Plus they did kick 2. 7 in the last they should have won.
 
TigerForce said:
There was no knee in the shoulder, only a knee on the back, however, as Dusty ducked his head FIRST it should've been play on.......including the commentary.

Considering we've copped a lot of gimmes against us in front of goal, we were lucky to get this one which sealed the game for us.
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I thought the umpiring was going North's way up until that incident though.

A knee in the back is a knee in the back regardless of a player ducking the head.
 
smasha said:
I thought the umpiring was going North's way up until that incident though.

A knee in the back is a knee in the back regardless of a player ducking the head.
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Agreed SmashNGrab - have no problem with the play on after the duck of the head, but he was then put to ground in the tackle and clearly a knee was used high on the back to hold Martin down - that is paid time and again TF and the early duck of the head becomes irrelevent after the play on call. Umps have repeatedly said, keep your knees out in similar contests. The only luckiness was the umpire was in the right position to see it ;)
 
watched a 2nd half replay and Roos was Very critical of both teams. The way he carried on about the Dusty free kick was embarrassing though. the Umpire clearly signalled a push in the back free kick not high contact. two knees rammed in dusty's back is a fair free imo
 
ICE said:
One interesting thing he said was that he thinks the game is about minimising mistakes, not taking risks.

He is probably right but makes the game almost unwatchable. I rarely watched Sydney games for that reason.
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Definitely speaking with his coach's hat on. Hopefully this year marks a shift in philosophies and players are encouraged to play exciting footy again.
 
smasha said:
I thought the umpiring was going North's way up until that incident though.

A knee in the back is a knee in the back regardless of a player ducking the head.
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There was a nice boomer harvey rugby pass on the boundary line that lead to a north goal.

There were also 2-3 times in the last 12 minutes where Rance was all over Petrie for nothing called.

The free kick ledger might have been in their favor but we got more critical free kicks (paid and not paid) going our way when it mattered.
 
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